Facts about the most feared weapon on Earth, the BOOMERs

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August 29, 2017, 12:36 PM

RAMIUS

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Is Chive a problem? I've never heard of it.

It's a fun social media website...not usually accurate in their list type posts, more infotainment.

It's definitly NOT a problem for quality T&A pics.

JALLEN, go check out some boobies and bootays.

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August 29, 2017, 03:25 PM

Rightwire

How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

August 29, 2017, 04:34 PM

arfmel

From the article:

"Other then food, she can produce her own oxygen and water supply for its crew."

Good Lord, how do these imbeciles get through high school English courses?

August 29, 2017, 04:47 PM

trapper189

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

The locks aren't a factor. The canals leading to them are dredged to a minimum depth of 27' and the sub draws 38' and is over 70' tall from the keel up. The St. Clair river also has a minimum depth of 27'. Maybe if you had a flock of African Sparrows you could fly an Ohio class sub into the Great Lakes.

The whole "article" is terrible. Many the captions don't match the pictures and the information is outdated and some times completely false. It seems to be click bait.

August 29, 2017, 05:02 PM

Hound Dog

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

IF we were to station subs in the Great Lakes, we really wouldn't care whether the Ruskies would know about it. . .

Once there, they would be practically invulnerable. I've always wondered why we didn't station them there. We wouldn't even need all the complex quieting technology that 'open ocean' subs require.

August 29, 2017, 05:09 PM

trapper189

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

IF we were to station subs in the Great Lakes, we really wouldn't care whether the Ruskies would know about it. . .

Once there, they would be practically invulnerable. I've always wondered why we didn't station them there. We wouldn't even need all the complex quieting technology that 'open ocean' subs require.

One reason is they can't get in and out. They're too big. Another might be there are probably much cheaper easier to maintain land based ways to launch ICBMs from the middle of the country. Lastly, the range of the Trident and Trident II are reportedly 4,600 miles and 7,500 miles. Sure limits the targets that could be reached.

August 29, 2017, 05:14 PM

LS1 GTO

Was listening to an article this morning where they were saying Russia, as led by Putin, developed a torpedo with a 6,000 mile range and able to carry enough explosives to take a carrier out of the fight. The scenario used was a Russian sub's ability to stand-off 5,000 miles from San Diego and release the weapon as a carrier gets underway.

Oh and Wonder Putz was credited with emboldening Putin to develop the torp.

August 29, 2017, 06:10 PM

mcrimm

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Originally posted by 46and2:
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Aside from the ocean our subs can also enter fresh water such as our Great Lakes (which already has US Navy’s USS Kentucky SSBN-737 and other smaller Los Angeles-class Attack Submarines).

I don't recall ever hearing that before. Pretty cool.

During WWII, We built submarines in Manitowc, Wisconsin. Sailed them out the St. Lawrence to the Ocean.

August 29, 2017, 06:19 PM

BBMW

7,500 miles easily puts Moscow in range of a Trident D5 (II) from Omaha (taking a random middle American city with AF importance as an example.) You could probably hit anywhere in Russia from there.

But you could probably put some D5s on trucks (which they'd be able to launch from), and drive them around to secure locations for LOTS cheaper than building a sub to wrap around them.

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Hound Dog:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

IF we were to station subs in the Great Lakes, we really wouldn't care whether the Ruskies would know about it. . .

Once there, they would be practically invulnerable. I've always wondered why we didn't station them there. We wouldn't even need all the complex quieting technology that 'open ocean' subs require.

One reason is they can't get in and out. They're too big. Another might be there are probably much cheaper easier to maintain land based ways to launch ICBMs from the middle of the country. Lastly, the range of the Trident and Trident II are reportedly 4,600 miles and 7,500 miles. Sure limits the targets that could be reached.

August 29, 2017, 06:30 PM

Skins2881

quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
7,500 miles easily puts Moscow in range of a Trident D5 (II) from Omaha (taking a random middle American city with AF importance as an example.) You could probably hit anywhere in Russia from there.

But you could probably put some D5s on trucks (which they'd be able to launch from), and drive them around to secure locations for LOTS cheaper than building a sub to wrap around them.

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Hound Dog:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

IF we were to station subs in the Great Lakes, we really wouldn't care whether the Ruskies would know about it. . .

Once there, they would be practically invulnerable. I've always wondered why we didn't station them there. We wouldn't even need all the complex quieting technology that 'open ocean' subs require.

One reason is they can't get in and out. They're too big. Another might be there are probably much cheaper easier to maintain land based ways to launch ICBMs from the middle of the country. Lastly, the range of the Trident and Trident II are reportedly 4,600 miles and 7,500 miles. Sure limits the targets that could be reached.

Are there any underwater silos? Seems cheaper than nuclear sub.

August 29, 2017, 07:05 PM

techguy

Can you imagine what it would cost to maintain that fleet? Holy sh*t.

August 29, 2017, 07:33 PM

JimmyRayBob

If there really are subs in the great lakes (there aren't), where do they re-supply their food?

And the lakes aren't that deep (relatively speaking). They could hold a sub, but not hide them very well.

August 29, 2017, 09:15 PM

braillediver

7500 miles and we'll put it in your living room.

They used to be the only nuclear platform that could launch from local command.

August 29, 2017, 09:25 PM

tgtshuter

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Originally posted by Fenris:
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These 18 weapons are also known as “Trident” subs because they’re a part of America’s “Nuclear Triad”.

Gee, I thought it was because they carried the Trident missile. Who knew that was just a coincidence.

I think the article is wrong.

I was assigned to a Titan II Wing in '77 and the term "nuclear triad" was in place at least as early as that time.

From what I've read, the Trident missile was first deployed in '79.

August 29, 2017, 09:36 PM

Rightwire

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen?

The locks aren't a factor. The canals leading to them are dredged to a minimum depth of 27' and the sub draws 38' and is over 70' tall from the keel up. The St. Clair river also has a minimum depth of 27'. Maybe if you had a flock of African Sparrows you could fly an Ohio class sub into the Great Lakes.

I was hoping you weren't insinuating that nuclear submarines were migratory.

August 29, 2017, 09:59 PM

chellim1

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Originally posted by cslinger:
So what your saying is the Chicago plan is off the table.

No... just deliver them with delivery trucks, probably rental trucks.

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