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This is a from a 1913 Welte piano roll (google it), it's not an acoustic recording. I thought it was very cool. Link to original video: https://youtu.be/Yri2JNhyG4k When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | ||
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I dig it | |||
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There's a lot of negative comments. I thought it was a marvelous performance. Appropriate tempo and great phrasing plus a wonderful use of rubato. Anyway, he's the fucking composer and should know how it ought to be played. He did make the piano roll and apparently approved of it or it never would have been released. When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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Maybe those people don't understand there's been a few changes in technology since then. Maybe have then see what a 1913 car looked and how it drove. And it didn't have a radio. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Thank you for posting. The negative comments probably come from cultured snobs. Season tickets to the Opera, but never attend. | |||
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I’ve seen and heard played two Welte Mignon players, both in the little town I grew up in, Sebastopol, CA. One was owned by a friend who was a piano tuner; the other by an older man who had hired my stepfather to paint his house. My stepfather took me to his wonderful studio as one of the great surprises of my life. Mr. Eddy had a very large collection of Welte piano rolls by illustrious pianists of the early 20th century, e.g. Paderewski. Unfortunately, Mr. Eddy’s brother IIRC sold it all off after his death so I believe the collection was scattered to the four winds. IIRC the major difference between the Welte and the usual player pianos was that not just the note but the touch could also be recorded and played back, so the recording was much more accurate than, e.g. hearing George Gershwin play Rhapsody in Blue on a piano roll. Speaking of obsolete technology no one wants, would any of you give a good home to an 1894 pump/reed organ? It was bought new by my wife’s grandparents. It’s quite lovely. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Link _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Two Welte Mignon devices appear to be on sale at this Link. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Those devices were/are capable of excellent playbacks of actual performances, if properly maintained and adjusted. In some ways they are superior to other recording techniques because they use an actual instrument to make the music. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Beautiful, thank you! | |||
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Nice. | |||
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Res ipsa loquitur![]() |
Where are you located? I have an organ and play in church occasionally and have a friend who is an organ performance graduate and is quite talented. __________________________ | |||
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That's beautiful. I've never heard that recording before. Thanks for posting it, Jim!! | |||
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Thanks, Maestro. I was hoping you would see the post. I've listened to it many times appreciate it more after each hearing. Doc - If I were very wealthy, I'd have a nice Steinway, a Welte Mignon player or two and collect those rolls. There was a guy back in the 70s who had a program on NPR where he played and commented on these recordings. I can't recall his name right now, but Google will no doubt come to the rescue tomorrow morning. YouTube probably has all of that available. As Scarlet said: When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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Don't sell yourself short with the Steinway. Bosendorfer, Fazioli, and Steingraeber and Sohne make better instruments. That being said, I wouldn't turn down a Steinway, especially a Hamburg Steinway. __________________________ | |||
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A Bosendorfer is an absolutely unreal instrument. It's in a call by itself. | |||
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Playing one is, well, amazing and I'm not very good. I really would like to try the new 280VC. __________________________ | |||
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Frangas non Flectes![]() |
For sure, different than I've ever heard it played, and better. I'm thankful that there was technology capable of capturing his performance back then. Simply amazing. A lot of the comments on the video surprise me. Mostly people saying he played it so fast because they were only capable of recording songs up to about four minutes in length. I find this dubious. I think he played it the way he wanted it heard. Can anyone weigh in on that? ______________________________________________ Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon. | |||
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Wonderful! It is more emotionally rich than most renditions, sweeping you along, as powerful feelings do, and then catching itself up in delicate and subtle reflections. Beautiful. Thanks for posting, Jim. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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I have no doubt that this is the way he intended it to be heard, but that's just my opinion. They used a lot more rubato in the 19th and early 20th Centuries. "It is impossible to attain a greater perfection of reproduction than that of the Welte apparatus. I am happy to assure you in these lines of my astonishment and admiration of what I heard. I am, Dear Sir, Yours Faithfully, Claude Debussy." Link When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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