Well I honestly wasn't ready for all the cast changes with the start of Season 3. But I'm sure I'll adjust....

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IIRC the end of the last season was when Diana came into the picture, so I'm sure there's plenty of subject matter for a full season just with the Diana 'era'.

I didn't care for that season. The acting was top notch, of course. The writing felt vindictive towards the crown and royal family. It just didn't feel as well put together and unbiased as the previous seasons.

/opnion

The late 70-early 80's, the royal family wasn't a thing other than under-current of media discussion about abolishing the monarchy all together. The UK post-WWII was the sick-man of Europe for too long and pessimism around all it's institutions was a constant. The royal family was seen as an anachronism, a symbol that the entire civil rights was pushing back against. It wasn't until Charles & Di's wedding and the Falklands War victory that pulled the UK's collective morale out of the depressing 70's and put some shine back into national pride & identiy.

The media & entertainment world was always on Diana's side, constantly framing the royals as being uncaring, nasty and cold; her biography helped reinforced those opinions. Buckingham Palace was a stuffy, mildew trap and the food served was horribly bland, then there was the company..... The upcoming s5 with Elizabeth Debicki playing Diana will be very interesting, she physically resembles her and her striking looks make her perfect for the part.

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Well I honestly wasn't ready for all the cast changes with the start of Season 3. But I'm sure I'll adjust....

Its not The Simpsons where everyone stays the same age

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Originally posted by bald1:
Well I honestly wasn't ready for all the cast changes with the start of Season 3. But I'm sure I'll adjust....

Its not The Simpsons where everyone stays the same age

Oh I know.... I guess I was simply expecting heavy make up to age everyone rather than wholesale replacements.

And continuing this series casting reflecting aging, series 5 will have again new "older" players.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/fe...ing-scenes-1995.html

I enjoyed the series. I got a better understanding of the queen’s duties. Quite involved.

I liked the episodes with Churchill especially. Although The dialogue was made up, it contained references to real events.

I’ve watched the series since the beginning. I just started rewatching it about a month ago, and as I type, the wife is watching S1E5. Now she is hooked too. I’m eagerly waiting for season 5.

The historical adviser for The Crown was Robert Lacey, apparently official biographer to the queen.
I just bought on Kindle two books that supposedly help you know what's historically accurate and what's fictional drama. I haven't looked at them yet.

My wife has never binge-watched before, but she's really into this.

I need to watch it.

Good news is when they get to the final years of Her Majesty's life, I'm sure they could offer Meghan Markle the role of a woman who marries into the family to convince The Queen's grandson to give up the royal family. She was in Deal or no Deal AND Suits, so she has acting experience.

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My wife watched the series and pronounced it excellent. This morning she said she thought she’d watch it again. I guess I’ll watch it for the first time.

We’re watching it now and are a couple episodes into the second season. The affair with Group Captain Townsend was just ended with finality when the Queen informed her sister, Margaret that she would not approve her marriage to the divorced Townsend. She had met with the Archbishop and other bishops of the Church of England who informed her that she could not allow the marriage, this after finally hurtling the obstacle of the PM’s Cabinet.

Check me if I’m wrong but…wasn’t the Church of England founded by Henry VIII after the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce and re-marry?

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Originally posted by TMats:
My wife watched the series and pronounced it excellent. This morning she said she thought she’d watch it again. I guess I’ll watch it for the first time.

We’re watching it now and are a couple episodes into the second season. The affair with Group Captain Townsend was just ended with finality when the Queen informed her sister, Margaret that she would not approve her marriage to the divorced Townsend. She had met with the Archbishop and other bishops of the Church of England who informed her that she could not allow the marriage, this after finally hurtling the obstacle of the PM’s Cabinet.

Check me if I’m wrong but…wasn’t the Church of England founded by Henry VIII after the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce and re-marry?

Henry VIII wanted an annulment, not a divorce. He wanted to say the marriage was never valid.

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Originally posted by TMats:
My wife watched the series and pronounced it excellent. This morning she said she thought she’d watch it again. I guess I’ll watch it for the first time.

We’re watching it now and are a couple episodes into the second season. The affair with Group Captain Townsend was just ended with finality when the Queen informed her sister, Margaret that she would not approve her marriage to the divorced Townsend. She had met with the Archbishop and other bishops of the Church of England who informed her that she could not allow the marriage, this after finally hurtling the obstacle of the PM’s Cabinet.

Check me if I’m wrong but…wasn’t the Church of England founded by Henry VIII after the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce and re-marry?

I believe the rub was Townsend was having the affair with a 21-year old Margaret, WHILE he was still married and with kids at home. Even though his wife also was having an affair, and they divorced shortly, the optics weren't good.

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Originally posted by TMats:
My wife watched the series and pronounced it excellent. This morning she said she thought she’d watch it again. I guess I’ll watch it for the first time.

We’re watching it now and are a couple episodes into the second season. The affair with Group Captain Townsend was just ended with finality when the Queen informed her sister, Margaret that she would not approve her marriage to the divorced Townsend. She had met with the Archbishop and other bishops of the Church of England who informed her that she could not allow the marriage, this after finally hurtling the obstacle of the PM’s Cabinet.

Check me if I’m wrong but…wasn’t the Church of England founded by Henry VIII after the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce and re-marry?

Henry VIII wanted an annulment, not a divorce. He wanted to say the marriage was never valid.

Yeah, I think that’s right, now that I see your response

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Originally posted by TMats:
My wife watched the series and pronounced it excellent. This morning she said she thought she’d watch it again. I guess I’ll watch it for the first time.

We’re watching it now and are a couple episodes into the second season. The affair with Group Captain Townsend was just ended with finality when the Queen informed her sister, Margaret that she would not approve her marriage to the divorced Townsend. She had met with the Archbishop and other bishops of the Church of England who informed her that she could not allow the marriage, this after finally hurtling the obstacle of the PM’s Cabinet.

Check me if I’m wrong but…wasn’t the Church of England founded by Henry VIII after the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce and re-marry?

Henry VIII wanted an annulment, not a divorce. He wanted to say the marriage was never valid.

Also, and this may be more important, Henry VIII didn't want to marry a divorced woman, whereas Margaret wanted to marry a divorced man. Plus, she wasn't the king, and Henry was, so . . .

Just finished the 4 seasons. And yes bring on season 5!

And yeah, the series paints Charles as the asshole I always perceived him as being.
Diana confirms in her own words pic.twitter.com/85gFfVir7h

Also interesting https://www.nickiswift.com/186...omed-from-the-start/

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What books?

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The historical adviser for The Crown was Robert Lacey, apparently official biographer to the queen.
I just bought on Kindle two books that supposedly help you know what's historically accurate and what's fictional drama. I haven't looked at them yet.

My wife has never binge-watched before, but she's really into this.

We got halfway through episode 2 of season 5. I don’t think we’ll continue. Season 5 is a real letdown. The new cast is not convincing, with the possible exception of the woman playing Princess Di.

Not even bothering with Season 5 given all the skewing they've been found to have done.

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We got halfway through episode 2 of season 5. I don’t think we’ll continue. Season 5 is a real letdown. The new cast is not convincing, with the possible exception of the woman playing Princess Di.

Don't sell yourself short. My wife and I have been watching Season 5 since the release last week and it's extremely well done. I'm not going to provide any spoilers, but but the season really provides depth and insight not just into the characters, but balances historical aspects such as the effect and consequences of the Russian revolution on the members of the British royal family facing a potential backlash to the horrendous losses during the "Great War."

I'd highly recommend watching this series as it goes well beyond the simple issues these family members were dealing with or are the focus of "tell all" releases.

My wife and I were both sick this week and binged season 5. Eh. Not as good as the previous 4, but still worth the watch. Elizabeth Dibecki is amazingly believable as Diana. The guy that is Charles is too good looking

Dominic Green was McNulty in The Wire. Yeah.

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Dominic Green was McNulty in The Wire. Yeah.

Update: On continued watching of the series, we've gotten caught up in it again and very impressed by the writing and acting.
The current episode (#8) is about Diana's interview with Martin Bashir on the BBC. We had to stop the video and look up whether Bashir had gotten the interview through serious deception--yes, it was true.
The series has not been kind to Charles, and likewise is not kind to Diana. Amazed at the candor, actually.