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It's not awesome. It's mediocre at best. WHAT IS GREAT is the shining example of all that's wrong these computer compiled videos Yootuubes is full of.

I'm not suggesting you watch the whole thing, but see what happens towards the end where the link brings you.


It talks about Robert Redford and Paul Newman. Then it gets them confused talking about the Towering Inferno. (Redford wasn't in it)

But wait, there's more! That's nothing compared to what comes after that. Eek Roll Eyes

https://youtu.be/qGGBdWd7qZk?feature=shared&t=1463

If you watch the embed, you need to skip to the 24 minute mark.




It makes you wonder what else is wrong, just not so obviously.


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I would not call anything AI generated Awesome. These unnamed hacks producing this crap steal other peoples copyrighted materials and don't get the punishment they deserve because they are very good at hiding who they are. I am at the point where I think it would be a good thing if the Feds shut down Youtube for Copyright infringement for allowing this shit.


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AI is the new Pandora’s box. IMHO, it will deliver more harm than benefits.


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Ok, where is there anything saying this is AI generated besides the one comment saying it is? I would like to know how you determined this. We may eventually arrive at a time where entire YouTube channels are entirely AI generated content, but I don't think we're actually there yet. I listened carefully and I'm not even entirely convinced that's a TTS reader.

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Originally posted by Scooter123:
I would not call anything AI generated Awesome. These unnamed hacks producing this crap steal other peoples copyrighted materials and don't get the punishment they deserve because they are very good at hiding who they are. I am at the point where I think it would be a good thing if the Feds shut down Youtube for Copyright infringement for allowing this shit.


You need to look up fair use and familiarize yourself. Rest assured there are legions of lawyers, fanboys, and AI algorithms as well curating and filtering all the content uploaded to YouTube in search of copyright violations. If you're that concerned about it, maybe spend your time patrolling and reporting content for removal. For myself, I'd rather see a compromised, but still valuable informational resource where anyone in the world can upload information. We need more of that, not less.


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We didn’t need this to tell about McQueen. We didn’t need this to confuse is with so much bad info.

It’s obvious that it’s AI as it has so many mistakes that most humans would have picked up on it right away
 
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Or, it’s intentional to draw engagement. As of me typing this, this thread has 270 views. If even half of those clicked the link, that’s a lot of ad revenue that the “creator” wouldn’t have gotten if the facts were correct. Comments get posted explaining everywhere the video is wrong, which further drives the algorithm, which bumps the video higher in the recommended list, which draws more views, which builds more ad revenue.

There’s absolutely nothing I’m seeing that tells me this is AI created. My vote is it’s some combination of lazy and clever. If I’m right, then it explains a number of the other videos, which deal with movie stars Baby Boomers grew up watching. “John Wayne’s addiction”? Come on, that’s clickbait and the comments are going to be positively loaded with people over the age of 60 trying to set the guy straight. You wouldn’t even need to spend the money on AI for this, just bootleg video editing software, have Chat GPT write you a script if you gotta have AI involved, and piece together snippets of movie clips off Amazon and Tubi.


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Ok, where is there anything saying this is AI generated..


The fact that it can't tell the difference between:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McQueen
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com...ty/steve_mcqueen_iii
Big Grin

If it was intentional to to draw comments and drive the algorithm, I don't think they would have waited till it was 80% over where most people didn't make it to anyway.

(I only did because I wasn't actually watching it, it was just sort of on while I did other things. I only looked up when I heard the name "Michelle Fassbender" Big Grin)

Speaking of not watching it, some of these replies make that clear. Wink
 
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That’s an interesting perspective. Deliberate deception
 
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If it was intentional to to draw comments and drive the algorithm, I don't think they would have waited till it was 80% over where most people didn't make it to anyway.


A way to boost engagement they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. The people who sat through the whole thing are now jumping up and driving the comments, are they not? It seems more likely to me than an entire channel of AI generated videos about 1960's Hollywood.

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Speaking of not watching it, some of these replies make that clear. Wink


I don't know anything about Steve McQueen and I don't care, so I had no reason to sit through a half hour video about it. Big Grin

I watched enough to satisfy myself that it wasn't an obvious TTS reader and badly generated AI images and called it good.

Look, I think the simplest explanation is that this is just spaghetti-at-the-wall content with zero care about accuracy. It's just some asshole with some video editing software pumping out dreck, trolling for clicks and ad revenue. Guy probably just read right off your Rotten Tomatoes link. If there's anything nefarious, it's some sort of intent and angle on simply getting clicks and driving engagement, being far more likely than the processing power of AI being put to use... generating YouTube videos? Forget about whether it's possible, is it likely. Those answers for me are respectively "maybe" and "no."

Look, there will come a day where this is a legit thing, where all manner of AI video content is being created and blasted at us 24/7 with the intent of gaining revenue being a prime motivator, and somewhere after that, the intent of confusing and disorganizing us. I truly believe we aren't there yet. AI is the new boogie man, and I get that, but I think you're jumping at shadows here. Totally incorrect info in a video to the point sounding ridiculous is not exactly something new. IF this is AI generated stuff, someone spent far more money on making this happen than the ad revenue can possibly recover, and to what end? To confuse a younger generation about the hero Steve McQueen and rile up a bunch of septuagenarians? I just don't see it. If you think I'm wrong, I would like you to point me to some free AI software that will do stuff of this quality so that I might use it myself and put it to better use.

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That’s an interesting perspective. Deliberate deception


And again, I'm not saying it's the most likely explanation. I'm saying it's more plausible than this being AI generated, and at that, so good with the voice and the video that I wouldn't believe it, but yet totally riddled with factual errors, incorrect pronunciation of names set aside. That would be the easier part to get right. You could have such a powerful AI simply give Chat GPT prompts to effectively do it's homework for it, and get it right very easily. In fact, I did that and posted it, but it was very lengthy so I trimmed it, but many of the things it corrected were the names cas points out were wrong.


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so I had no reason to sit through a half hour video about it. Big Grin


Somebody should have posted a link that took you directly to the relevant part, or at least told you were it was if you chose to watch the embedded version. Frown

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"I'm not suggesting you watch the whole thing, but see what happens towards the end where the link brings you."

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"If you watch the embed, you need to skip to the 24 minute mark."
 
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I'm not so sure that this is actually AI-generated, but instead thinking that within this vid is just a computer-generated 'male voice' narrative that's translating a digital script file into English-sounding phrases. This particular 'male voice' is all over YouTube, used on a multitude of YT vids covering a humungous range of topics. Buy the right voice translation app or software, and that would certainly explain the phenomenon.


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My question is on the motives for doing this

Was it to show the current state of the art of AI and how good, or to show how bad it is

I’m no fan of AI but I think in certain areas it might be a good thing such as trying to do some online research to stop chasing bogus links (not suggesting it ever be used in academia) and certainly not for passing off as you’re own work.

I can pretty quickly spot AI generated photographs
 
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Somebody should have posted a link that took you directly to the relevant part, or at least told you were it was if you chose to watch the embedded version. Frown


Right, I watched that part. The one little comment out of that whole post is saying I wasn't going to fact check the rest of the video because I don't know and don't care about Steve McQueen. This doesn't negate any of the points I made. You see this as AI, I see it as some combination of lazy and stupid, or lazy and clever, but I don't see where it's AI.


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