I enjoyed it.

For a book that covers Bonnie & Clyde and a bunch of other period dirtbags, I highly recommend "Public Enemies" by Bryan Burrough; a great read!

I just watched THE HIGHWAYMEN, very enjoyable. I’ll put the Hamer biography mentioned earlier on my Amazon wishlist. Also need to brush up on my Texas history from the timeframe between the World Wars, lots of different things going on, from the Depression, Prohibition, the East Texas oil fields were wild and woolly in the beginning, the whole Ma Ferguson episode, etc.

In the early 1970s, I was with my parents, visiting my paternal grandparents in Many, Louisiana. All this talk of Texas in this thread, but Bonnie and Clyde were killed in Bienville Parish, Louisiana, not too far from my grandparents' farm. One summer night, my dad took me to Natchitoches, where a semi trailer was parked.

SEE THE BONNIE AND CLYDE DEATH CAR!! ADMISSION ONE DOLLAR

My dad gave the guy two bucks and we walked up a ramp into this trailer, and there was a Ford automobile all shot to Hell. I remember my dad asking the guy what model Ford and he said it was a '34 Deluxe. There were two clothing mannequins in the front seat, representing Bonnie and Clyde.
This was not, of course, the actual death car. I recall vividly that the car had a fresh coat of paint, with the bullet holes being under the paint job. It was painted a light tan color, desert tan, I guess you might call it.

"Oh yeah," said my dad to the guy. "Got 'em good." Although I didn't see his face when he made the remark, I could tell by the sound of his voice that it was a "wink, wink" remark, for my benefit, I imagine.

I haven't thought about that in a long time.

I had a teacher that was from that area in LA where it went down He would talk about it sometimes but as kids we didn't pay much attention. He was also a WWII Vet I wish I would have listened.

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I never picked up why they called him Pancho.

"Pancho" is the Texican familiar for "Frank". All my friends in Tejas and Mexico call me that when we work swim meets together.

HTH,
"Point Blank" Frank
8-)

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I enjoyed the noir...

Say what?

this made me chuckle

In a recent Dan Patrick interview Kevin recalls taking his father's 30-30 to kindergarten for show and tell (imagine that today). He uses the same rifle in Yellowstone. IMDB doesn't mention it but I'd be willing to bet it's the same. Yeah, the gun store scene may be a bit of poetic license as Hamer requisitioned the BAR from the Feds (iirc).

Well, three cheers for toxic masculinity!
Good story, great antidote to the Bonnie and Clyde lovefest.

Good show, worth your 2 hrs to watch. Woody and Costner were good picks for their roles.

How do I see thing thing if I don't subscribe to Netflix? I won't give those people any of my money.

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How do I see thing thing if I don't subscribe to Netflix? I won't give those people any of my money.

Free trial subscription, make sure to cancel after grace period. FWIW Netflix is the only pay source we have use for.

Thank you. Any chance that Netflix is one of those companies who become blind and deaf when you try to cancel?

My wife and I also enjoyed the movie, and out of curiosity we watched a couple of documentaries about the couple (on Amazon Prime of all places) and it also mentioned that it was Methvin and not Bonnie that killed that officer. I understand the desire and sometimes need to take artistic license for certain stories but when you are making a film about an actual historic event, details of this kind matter.

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Thank you. Any chance that Netflix is one of those companies who become blind and deaf when you try to cancel?

You can cancel everything online. Login, go to your account, and there's a big "Cancel membership" button.

Looking at the turnout for B&C's funerals, it would be interesting to see just how they became such huge folk heroes. Word of mouth? The Depression angst? A manipulative press? Was their "fame" mostly regional or nationwide? Clouded thinking as a nation got back to drinking?

On a societal level something was off it would seem.

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Looking at the turnout for B&C's funerals, it would be interesting to see just how they became such huge folk heroes. Word of mouth? The Depression angst? A manipulative press? Was their "fame" mostly regional or nationwide? Clouded thinking as a nation got back to drinking?

On a societal level something was off it would seem.

I think soooooo many people had lost all of their money to sooooo many banks that went under during the great depression, that they saw the banks as total crooks and B+C as some sort of robin hood type thing. Stealing from the rich and giving it to the poor. etc.

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Looking at the turnout for B&C's funerals, it would be interesting to see just how they became such huge folk heroes. Word of mouth? The Depression angst? A manipulative press? Was their "fame" mostly regional or nationwide? Clouded thinking as a nation got back to drinking?

On a societal level something was off it would seem.

Newspapers, news reels at the movies, and radio.

Nothing has changed, from then until now. Human nature. Gangsters represented the 20th Century "Man of Action"- a person or persons who could cut through the bullshit and struggle of every day life and live their destiny. The fact that it was a couple- a male/female duo- made it all the more interesting to people- just as it would be today.

The defiant way they lived was intriguing to the public, the violent way they were killed cemented their fame.

The photos- specifically the one of Bonnie with the cigar in her mouth- helped catapult B&C into being legends. Those pics were widely published.
The economic depression in the 1930s meant that people were bored because staying entertained costs money. B&C was a damn interesting subject, with people living vicariously through them.

I'll go so far as to say that Bonnie and Clyde represented archetypal characters which appeal to humans at a subconscious level.

Forget the fact that they were murderous, poor white trash. When you think of Bonnie and Clyde, you think of dashing figures living as they wanted and not growing old- always youthful, and never to be tamed. This is always appealing to people. They ignored all the rules and laws and shoulds and should-nots and did what they wanted.

If you want to say that the public's adulation of Bonnie and Clyde is an indicator that "something was off" in society, you need to point your finger at the entire human race and its inherent nature.

I can understand that appeal but am pretty sure I wouldn't feel good about myself showing up at such a funeral. It's disheartening so many had no such misgivings.

We don't have to go back that far to see how the violent actions of miscreants are ignored, replaced by some romantic higher plane, a contextual reimagining of who they were -- Manson, Bundy, Columbine, Black Panthers, ISIS, Antifa, they all have their fans.

As a young guy when 67's "B&C" came out, yeah, they were cool. I do get it.

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Thank you. Any chance that Netflix is one of those companies who become blind and deaf when you try to cancel?

If I recall correctly you don’t have to put payment info in on the free trial. Regardless Netflix is quick on the responses.

I too enjoyed this movie.

I liked how the movie was made as He and the deputies understood the situation. Also, the final scene was filmed on location in the same place.

I enjoyed it and will probably watch it again.