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I was chatting with a buddy who is a former operator. While he panned this movie overall as a movie he did say it contained the most correct firearm work he's seen, start to finish, from Hollywood. Anyone with any thoughts? Oh, and why did the character playing Russian roulette put his off hand up to the other side of his head? _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | ||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
I liked it. Sarah Silverman got the crap knocked out of her.  And I agree with the gun handling. As for the second question.....out of consideration for the host's carpet?  _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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I remember getting into an argument with a forum member a while back about this movie. I asked why Benicio only brought one extra magazine for his Galil but brought like 20 for his Commander. The response was that the Galil was not common in America/Mexico. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
That's pretty close to my guess. If you watch that scene, he looks to his left and appears to notice something, then puts his hand up to the side of his head as if to shield it. It's like he doesn't want to get blood on the lampshade, or something else off to his left. | |||
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The firearms handling, tactics & realistic reloading was probably because the technical advisor was a SEAL, who also happened to be the director's brother. Great movie. ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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I am likely in the minority. I thought is was a pretty crappy movie. The gun-handling was nothing special. Almost like they were trying TOO hard to make it 'realistic'. ---------------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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As far as Hollywood goes, it's one of the better movies as far as gun handling goes. You can quibble that some of it is exaggerated however, it doesn't detract from the movie. I do enjoy seeing James Cann's revolver reloads and Del Toro's one-handed 1911 reloading. | |||
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I actually DIDN'T like the firearm handling in this. Benicio and Ryan were playing hapless thugs that kept getting into trouble, so I think they shouldn't have looked so proficient in gun training. If they were playing trained soldiers or SWAT members, maybe... But overall, I did like this film. | |||
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I actually love this movie and the gun play. | |||
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| Live long and prosper  |
A must see action movie, by all means. 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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non ducor, duco |
One of my fave gun movies. I used to buy the dvd's at walmart bargain bin and give them away to people, even karma'd one off here. There was a 'behind the making of' type of half hour movie on this and they showed the two operators who were involved with instruction and every scene's gunplay. It also had ryan phillipe explaining how he and del toro had to put in 2 weeks gun training before shooting where they did 10 hours a day doing different courses. First In Last Out | |||
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I think that's a very valid point. Definitely a result of director's SEAL brother 'training how we do it' and the director saying, go with that. Instead, what should've been of two trained shooters, who've delved into the criminal world of opportunist crime. | |||
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| High Speed Low Drag Operator in the Innis Mode  |
An old favorite of mine as well, and the lack of backstory always intrigued me. Two schmucks from nowhere stumble into a situation, AND with an incredible assortment of tools and the proper skills to utilize them effectively on hand. What the prelude? What else did they have in the trunk of that car? They didn't pick up a few things at Buy-Mart on the way. *********************** I think the "check engine" light is burned out | |||
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Caribou gorn |
Never seen it, added to the Netflix watchlist. I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. | |||
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Ryan pulling the magazine out of his 45 with his teeth kind of upset me. | |||
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I believe they had some serious training prior to the movie by the Producers brother who was a former Navy SEAL. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Three on, one off |
I’m pretty sure their 1911s were 9mm | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
Yep. Tapered 9mm barrel:  Crimped 9mm magazines:  | |||
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Armed and Gregarious |
Former operator? One ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingy . . .  ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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