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I was inspired by the “What are you reading?” thread and started thinking about the next Clancy book I should listen to.

The first I listened to was Zero Hour, which I’ve since learned was one of his “ghost writers” books.

I enjoyed it, but wanted to take in what was considered more of a purely Clancy masterpiece. I was told Without Remorse.

3/4 of the way through, I agree it was an excellent recommendation.

WR has helped motivate me to get out and see my customers during a time where my anxiety has been withering.

So which one of his books would you recommend I listen to next? Again, I’d prefer that it be an early/purely Clancy written book.

Thanks, y’all!



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Red storm rising



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The Hunt for Red October



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I read them in order as they came out but stopped when the collaborations started and after his death.


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Any of his early books are great to start with. I got started reading Clancy again this winter with 'Threat Vector' a Jack Ryan, Jr., series co-authored by Mark Greaney. Now I'm catching up on all the Jack Ryan/Jack Ryan, Jr., series Clancy novels. Most are co-authored by either Mark Greaney or Grant Blackwood. Both do a very good job.

I have found that the politics in these books is eerily similar to what we have been seeing these past few years.


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just started reading 'Executive Orders' again and will follow it up with 'Debt of Honor'
 
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Sum of All Fears. If it doesn't scare the shit out of you, you have ice water in your veins.

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I'll counter this one. SoAF was a dry slow slog through the middle of it, at the when I read it years ago.




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Red Storm Rising


This.

(Also the book I wish most would be made into a movie that stuck to the book. I would have to be a multi-year miniseries, but it would be awesome. Big Grin)

After that, I'd start with THFRO and go from there. Stop when you get to the co-writing books.


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I read Sum of All Fears, Debt of Honor, and Executive Orders back-to-back in mid 2001.

It was eerie. Debt of Honor will give you chills.

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It’s interesting how every time I ask this question on a forum, the answers are so varied.

Does that speak to the high quality of all of his work? It can’t just be attributed to individual preferences…

Is there a good place to view a full list of all of the books that Clancy is attributed to writing? Particularly a list that shows them in chronological order and whether it’s a purely Clancy creation or a collaboration?



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Is there a good place to view a full list of all of the books that Clancy is attributed to writing? Particularly a list that shows them in chronological order and whether it’s a purely Clancy creation or a collaboration?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy_bibliography


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Most of us love his early works. But once he started farming out the stories to other writers it gets real varied.

The Hunt For Red October - It is his first book and it is incredible.

Red Storm Rising - Kind of an odd duck for TC as it was a bit of a standalone. I just purchased the kindle version and plan to give it a re-read after a number of years.

You already mentioned WR So that leaves me with

Cardinal of the Kremlin. I really really loved this book. I consider it one of the best 'spy' story books I have ever read.

I hope this helps.



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Hunt For Red October is a great book. The movie didn't come anywhere near doing it justice.

Red Storm Rising is one of my favorite books of all time, I re-read it every couple of years or so. Some of it is a bit dated now, but it's still a tremendous read. I too would like to see it made into a movie series (a la LOTR), but I doubt that it could be done well.

Without Remorse is my other Clancy favorite, it too gets re-read periodically. The movie has essentially nothing in common with the book, other than the title.

The other early Ryan stories are mostly good. The more recent ones, as others have noted, don't quite measure up. I was never able to get into any of the spinoff series, they just didn't hold my attention.
 
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Is there a good place to view a full list of all of the books that Clancy is attributed to writing? Particularly a list that shows them in chronological order and whether it’s a purely Clancy creation or a collaboration?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy_bibliography


Ok, now I feel like an idiot for asking that



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Bear and Dragon and anything after is avoidable. As is anything labeled Tom Clancy's.
Bear and Dragon was looong and incredibly boring. The Simpsons even mocked it with Sideshow Bob saying being beaten by copies of it in prison was better than actually reading it.

Another author to consider is Larry Bond. He co-wrote Red October and Red Storm Rising. His first three books: Red Phoenix, Vortex, and Cauldron are very much like Red Storm Rising.


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Everything in order up through Debt of Honor is good. Rainbow Six was good, but would have been better if he’d written in earlier in his career. Of course you can’t stop at Debt of Honor, but I think Executive Orders is bad, and The Bear and the Dragon is absolutely awful.

They remind me of Atlas Shrugged in a way. A good story but he was in desperate need of an editor. There are entire chapters that have nothing at all to do with the rest of book in Bear and Dragon along with several times that he just repeats himself. Yeah, I get it, the coffee in the White House is really good.




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I guess I may be the odd man out but Bear and the Dragon is my favorite of his second only to Without Remorse. I really liked everything up to the ghost writer stuff.
 
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Bear and Dragon and anything after is avoidable. As is anything labeled Tom Clancy's.
Bear and Dragon was looong and incredibly boring. The Simpsons even mocked it with Sideshow Bob saying being beaten by copies of it in prison was better than actually reading it.

Another author to consider is Larry Bond. He co-wrote Red October and Red Storm Rising. His first three books: Red Phoenix, Vortex, and Cauldron are very much like Red Storm Rising.


I started B&D years ago, have a bookmark maybe 20% into it.
Haven't gotten around to unboxing books since we moved, may have to revisit some Clancy when we do.




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