for years Ive claimed to dislike an not appreciate rap and or hip hop.

but in the last 1/2 hour I have seen a dozen videos that claimed to be one or the other.

is there a difference between the two ?

My understanding would be hip hop is softer rap. 80s ballads vs deathmetal

My answer....Who cares?

Yes, no, it depends.

It's a hotly debated topic in some circles, with no clear nor widespread consensus.

For all intensive porpoises, in anything you'll ever encounter, there's no real difference.

In some contexts - some folks speak of "Rap" while thinking "Gangster Rap", and then assume that "Hip-Hop", then, is all of the "Non Gangster Rap". But it's not really true.

It's a lot like nerds arguing over "Tactical" gear versus "Military" gear. Mostly pointless.

Personally, I think of it like this... Rapping is what they're doing, like Singing - but different. And Hip-Hop is the music Rappers make with their rapping. Basically.

Some old school Rap artists disagree. Most fans don't give a shit enough to separate them.

(was that too verbose?

Jay-z is hiphop, ice cube is rap. Bonethugs is rap.

I guess. ^



In reality, the inverse s true.

Jay-Z (Shawn Carter) is an a actual gangsta from Brooklyn (former successful crack dealer), turned rapper, who built an empire - earnings wise (100+ million records and 21 grammys) using the actual skills he learned on the street selling crack, they say.

Ice Cube is a dude named O'shea Jackson who likes weed, went to highschool in Woodland Hills Cali with Jason Bateman, and went to college. He just raps about being a Gangsta sometimes, but isn't (despite being partially credited w/ inventing "Gangsta Rap").

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Originally posted by bendable:
is there a difference between the two ?

Not to me. I consider them both to be noise.

My rule of thumb is that Hip-Hop is more musical. Rap (to me) is pretty much just what it sounds like, “rapping” without musical accompaniment, or with mostly just percussive elements from bass, drums, and a turn table or two.

I may not be right, but it works for me

No. There is good and bad. There are so many genres and sub genres of it that it cannot be explained easily. Just explaining say De La Soul or Mos Def, Guru, KRS, to say the trash that comes out of the south, with horrible beats and just some dude repeating a hook, is difficult. Like most forms of music there is good and bad. And the bad makes up the majority of it. If one heard TRAP I’d understand why you think all of it is the same and awful. TRAP is terrible.

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TRAP is terrible.

This. I like rap/hip hop. But typically something older or more obscure modern. But Trap is awful.

traditionally, rapping is one element of hip-hop culture, the others being tagging (graffiti), break dancing, and DJing/spinning.

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Originally posted by myrottiety:

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TRAP is terrible.

This. I like rap/hip hop. But typically something older or more obscure modern. But Trap is awful.

Hadn’t heard of it. “Originated from Southern Hip-Hop.” Is that like Jason Aldean or some shit like that?

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Originally posted by TMats:

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Originally posted by myrottiety:

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TRAP is terrible.

This. I like rap/hip hop. But typically something older or more obscure modern. But Trap is awful.

Hadn’t heard of it. “Originated from Southern Hip-Hop.” Is that like Jason Aldean or some shit like that?

southern hip hop is out of cities like atlanta, new orleans, houston, memphis, and maybe miami. very different sound from LA and NYC rappers.
major artists like:
atlanta - outkast, goodie mob, ludacris, jeezy
new orleans - big tymers, master p, juvenile, birdman, lil wayne
houston - ugk, paul wall, mike jones
memphis - three six mafia, 8ball and MJG
miami - trick daddy, rick ross, t-pain, dj khaled

I was being facetious, YJ, but thanks