Started season 2 of 1923. A few episodes in and I’m out. Taylor Sheridan worked out his 14 year old teenage boy lesbian fantasies in Lioness, I don’t know what the fuck he’s trying to work out in the second season of 1923, but all of the rape and sexual violence on women, I just have too vivid of an imagination for that.

That shit didn’t bother me in Game of Thrones, maybe because it was literal fantasy. In 1923 it’s all too real, and there’s no enjoyment in watching the season so far. If Spencer ever gets his ass back to Montana and does some damage, maybe I’ll watch the last couple of episodes.

I get what he’s trying to do and the message he’s trying to send about the conditions of that era, but I have enough sadness and despair in my life right now, I sure as fuck don’t need to watch it on TV with no perceived expectation of a happy ending for any of these characters.

Compared to 1883,
This one is no where near as good.
( After four episodes)
Imo

The show has been way too ridiculous. Imagine the worst case scenario happening to someone non-stop.

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Originally posted by aparoche:
The show has been way too ridiculous. Imagine the worst case scenario happening to someone non-stop.

Agreed! The wife and I had the exact same conversation. Then the show, finally, takes a break from that, things level out, the plot starts to advance and, NOPE, back to life altering disasters on all fronts, again. We'll finish the seaon but it becomes exhausting.

Geez, the Grim Reaper was busy in the last episode.

No shit! 7 corpses. Although technically one bought it in the previous episode. Most of them were due to arrogance and painfully obvious bad decisions.
I’m guessing the bullets will be done flying by midway through the last episode, then you’ll have 20 or 30 minutes of sortingout and misery.

I stuck with it for the finale and I have to say it was worth it. I'm glad they are ending it after two seasons. I do enjoy Taylor Sheridan's storytelling but the constant worst case scenario gets tiresome.

I also like how everyone just completely forgot about Jack Dutton. Grieve for five minutes and his pregnant wife is all too excited to bolt back to Boston.

The finale tied up everything nicely.

I gotta get one of those 100 shot Winchesters, that would be sweet.

Almost as sweet as having a couple water barrels full of 30-30 ammo.

The train station.

This is the one where, early on, an Indian girl is abused in a school run by the church or something?
I read recently that the series is much more enjoyable if you fast forward past all the Indian victim stuff. But it sounds like my wife and I would not enjoy all the violence. We stopped watching a couple of years ago after maybe two episodes when the English girl went chasing after the Safari hunter.

Not the ending we hoped for, but the finale was a really good episode. And yeah, that was a whole lot of 30-30 action

I watched the last episode last night. I didn't watch the whole series as it clearly was not Sheridan's best effort. He was under the gun to fulfill the terms of his contract and simply a) ran out of time, b) ran out of ideas, c) or is just burnt out.

But, the blonde freezing to death spots a train, builds a fire as a signal; her husband "happens" to be on the train and is the only one who spots her; he runs to the back of a fast moving train and ...... jumps off.

Any mortal man? He's gonna be dead, too. After that. But, no, he's fine. Even still got his hat on. And ... you know the rest.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
This is the one where, early on, an Indian girl is abused in a school run by the church or something?
I read recently that the series is much more enjoyable if you fast forward past all the Indian victim stuff. But it sounds like my wife and I would not enjoy all the violence. We stopped watching a couple of years ago after maybe two episodes when the English girl went chasing after the Safari hunter.

Save yourself the headache. It's trash. It's my own fault for watching this brain diarrhea, but that won't stop me from venting I suppose.

SPOILERS AHEAD and also naughty language

My wife and I looked past some of the dogshit writing in the first season, because we thought that the Spencer/Alex storyline had potential. They were likeable and had chemistry, and we figured that with all the impossible situations they managed to squeeze out of in the first season, that there'd be no way it would be as retarded for season 2. They MUST scale it back a bit to give us more of what we liked, and less what we didn't care for, right?

Well they absolutely proved us wrong. Somehow, the braindead writers managed to have both of them run into every evil despicable person on the planet in a matter of a few days. Need to tie your shoe? Well a gumshoe-turned-rapist will put is dirty pole in your ear. Have time for a sandwich? Well, that stabby overworked diner matron will take a piece of your kidney. I swear, those idiots couldn't have anyone sit on a bench for 30 seconds without running into the worst caricature of a villain that 1923 had to offer.

My god this was some horrible writing. Didn't you know, evil guys threw their fingers into random women all over the place? Train stations, boats to America, open train cars. Just fingers in naughty-bits completely unasked for. Stupid white men and their privates-hungry digits. Dog shit.

In fact, the writing was so bad, they didn't even realize they'd written the exact same scene within a few minutes of each other. Harrison Ford commented that Alex was like a Mustang and that old lady Irish-Ford would have really liked her because she was JUST LIKE HER. Awww. Did you get tears? Well hold them close, because not even a few minutes later we get them sitting in a hospital hallway and Lady Yellowstone says, "Tell me what she was like.. the girl in the other room that's doing the most selfish thing possible and allowing herself to die so that her son has no mother...?" And Ford again says something like, "She's a unique shooting star full of fire and blasty things from space. You'd have liked her, because she was JUST LIKE YOU!!" *Boop*

Goddamnit I can't believe we even sat and watched theis feces. Every scene in the season was dumb as shit.

I'm getting my ire up again just thinking about this, and I haven't even touched on the stupidest mind-numbing pieces of the story.

James Bond as a villain. At the start, I commented to my wife, "Oh man I actually kind of like Timothy Dalton in villain roles. He's always had a slimy charm that makes him easy to dislike." Of course, intellectually stunted writers couldn't just let the actor do his thing. No, we need some kind of sex-fetish-hooker-killing-spanky-time evil kind of guy. Which is ridiculous and completely unwarranted. Especially since it cast a shadow over their hand-wringing land-grabbing evil-robber-baron meetings. It made the land-snatching look stupid, and they couldn't even let that stand on its own. They had to put poor abused hooker-trash in the corner on a chair looking like she had a case of the sads. "Oh poor me. I've used up my baby-hole and they beat the tar out of me.... won't you please feel bad for me, audience?"

Idiocy.

The absolute salute to moronic brain-dead contributions to this series though was the Crow girl storyline. I literally had to pause the show after she and her crew fled from the cattle auction property, and explain to my wife:
- They fled the auction and went in a direction
- They stopped a day or two later, AFTER FLEEING mind you, and decided Chief Chudlicker "Boyfriend" would go look for water
- CC Boyfriend goes in a random direction
- Pursuers also leave the auction, supposedly pursuing / tracking Crow girl and company

Yet somehow, Boyfriend just HAPPENS upon the Priest and the Lawman. What the fuck. And that was just the latest coincidence that made me stop the show and ask what the ever-loving hell we were watching.

What a waste.

Terrible show.

ZERO out of Ten stars.

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Originally posted by Veeper:
Terrible show. ZERO out of Ten stars.

I happen to know that at the UCLA school of motion picture and tv directing, they're using this show as an example of too many plot holes.

(If that's not true, it should be.)

Honestly, when I hate something I don't hate it all at once. I start to wonder why I'm watching it, and why I'm not enjoying it. Then, if I finish it, I stew on it. I brood. Then it starts to just piss me off that people make money writing shows like that. So much money and potential wasted.

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Originally posted by Veeper:
Honestly, when I hate something I don't hate it all at once. I start to wonder why I'm watching it, and why I'm not enjoying it. Then, if I finish it, I stew on it. I brood. Then it starts to just piss me off that people make money writing shows like that. So much money and potential wasted.

Haha, great long post on the show. It was absolutely ridiculous. If the entire world was as evil as it was in 1923, you couldn’t leave the house. I’m starting to think that Taylor Sheridan is an old perv with all of the fetishes he is depicting in his shows.

Veeper, you made my day. I’m glad we stopped at the only high point of the entire series, with the English chick chasing after the sexy, brave safari hu ter. You saved me hours of lecturing from my wife about the immorality of today’s TV.
To give you an idea, every night she wants to watch an episode or two of I Love Lucy.