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| I'm watching it and really like it. No Utopia - the Hawaiians are just as bad as the whites.
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| OK, not bad so far.
They've been pretty faithful to props and wardrobe, even using the Hawaiian language and many of the issues revolving around the religiosity and the stranglehold it had on society. Kinda surprised they included a single-scene of same-sex relationship, an aspect of Polynesian society that wasn't uncommon but not spoken much in contemporary times. They've set-up the 'Paleskins' as good ones and bad ones so, will be interesting to see how things get parsed-out, if you've been to the Big Island and you do a bit of digging, John Young and Ka'aina's stories are available. As with Game of Thrones, where they pulled-in a who's who of British, Scottish and Irish actors, this show has pulled-in just about every known Polynesian actor, its a good vehicle to display the culture and the complexities. |
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| Corsair, I knew you’d be up in here. I have the same fascination with the Natives. Every time I’m there, I learn more. Got some local boys I’m in pretty good with. Not Ohana, but close. I am enjoying it thus far. I’m caught up and annoyed it’s the whole wait a full week shit. I should have left it alone. I don’t binge watch anything. But catching up I’ll do it like a movie, and do 2 EP’s a night so 1.5 hours or so. Acting has been decent, nothing to write home about, but I like how Mo-Mo tried to get as much as he could correct. Having studied the Native Americans for decades of my life, I still feel like I haven’t touched even the surface of the Native Hawaiians and I’ve been studying what I can get my hands on for years. So this series might as well be crack to me. They could keep this rolling for multiple seasons easy as I know, in general, what is coming, already. Ka’iana is going to sell out sooner or later. Be ready 
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| quote: Originally posted by urbanwarrior238: I might have missed something. Ka'iana was chased, beaten and jumped into the ocean, rescued by the ship and then when the ship reaches port he is wearing his ceremonial hat and robe. Did I miss how he had that on him when he jumped off the cliff???
He must have had it shipped via UPS.
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| quote: Originally posted by urbanwarrior238: I might have missed something. Ka'iana was chased, beaten and jumped into the ocean, rescued by the ship and then when the ship reaches port he is wearing his ceremonial hat and robe. Did I miss how he had that on him when he jumped off the cliff???
Shesh  The episodes are now touching on some pivotal incidents which were real but, for storytelling sake they've taken some liberties in the where and how's. The Olowalu Massacre took place on Maui not on the Big Island were Ka'iana raced through the jungle to see the aftermath...real life he wasn't there because it took place on a different island. The incident that took place on big island was a different chief who beat and killed Metcalfe's son & crew who was onboard a different ship, due to a separate incident that daddy Metcalfe was involved in, ultimately resulting in another haole joining John Young to advise Kamahamaha and Ka'iana as they began their march to consolidate rule of the islands. Will be interesting to see how they introduce Capt Vancouver and his role in arming the other Hawaiian kings. While the show has touched on homosexuality (which was very common amongst Polynesians) issues like slavery & incest continue to be stuffed. In the show, Ka'iana goes to Zamboanga and is repulsed by seeing people in cages but...Hawaiian society was highly segregated operating in a caste system this would not have turned-off somebody that was a royal. Slavery was very much apart of the society, as slaves were ostracized to specific areas of each island, used for human sacrifices and other undesirable labors. Incest was also common, deformities and developmental issues that result were common in the quest for blood purity...in the Hawaiians case it was all about the bones, the bones of royalty where power was believe to be derived from. |
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