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I was just getting ready to bring up Mr. Burgett's books. I recently bought copies of them. He was a "regular" at the gun shop I help out at in town. He autographed a photo of him at Bastogne to the shop owner. Never got a chance to meet him though. A bill is awaiting President Trump's signature to name the Howell Post Office the Sergeant Donald Burgett Post Office Building. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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We gonna get some oojima in this house! |
Silent Running Iron Coffins Hitlers U boat War ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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For non-fiction, Max Hastings, Stephen Ambrose and Cornelius Ryan are all very good authors. Len Deighton has also written both fiction and non-fiction covering WWII. Fighter. Non-fiction. Blitzkrieg. Non-fiction. Blood, Tears and Folly. Non-fiction Bomber. Fiction. Goodbye Mickey Mouse. Fiction. | |||
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Outstanding book. | |||
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Pacific war trilogy > Ian Toll ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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Have Camera - Will Travel Wire Gonzo, Far Bombay |
I have read, and very much enjoyed, "The Fleet at Flood Tide". I have not read James D. Hornfischer's other books, but "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" certainly seems to be a recurring recommendation. _________________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to prevent bad people from doing bad things to good people. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.-Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Festina Lente |
"Clear the Bridge -The War Patrols of the U.S.S. Tang" https://www.amazon.com/Clear-B...words=submarine+tang In five war patrols, O'Kane and Tang sank an officially recognized total of 24 Japanese ships - the second highest total for a single American submarine and the highest for a single commanding officer. This total was revised in 1980 from a review of Japanese war records corroborated by the Tang′s surviving logs and crewmembers to 31 ships totalling over 227,000 long tons (231,000 t) sunk. This established one of the Pacific War's top records for submarine achievement.[3] Several times during the war he took the Tang into the heart of a convoy and attacked ships ahead and behind while coolly steering clear of escorting combatants—counting on Tang′s relative position, speed, and low profile to keep clear of enemy escorts. He and the Tang also performed laudably on "Lifeguard Duty", which was a practice of positioning one or more submarines off an island to be attacked by planes of the Fast Carrier Task Forces to be in a nearby close-in "ditching station" in position to rescue downed pilots. Off Truk, he and the Tang rescued 22 airmen in one mission taking some interesting risks in the process which earned a Presidential Unit Citation. The Tang and O'Kane's third patrol, into the Yellow Sea, ranked first in the war patrol records for number of ships sunk in a single patrol. O'Kane claimed eight ships at the time, but post-war analysis increased this to ten ships. On one attack, he had targeted two large ships with three torpedoes each and assumed three hits in each. Japanese records actually reported two hits in each with the third of each spread hitting smaller ships in the next column. This surpassed the next highest patrol which was for the Wahoo, with O'Kane as XO, in the same area the year before. He was captured by the Japanese when the Tang was sunk in the Formosa Strait by her own flawed torpedo (running in a circle) during a surface night attack on October 24–25, 1944. O'Kane lost all but eight members of his crew, and was secretly (i.e. illegally) held prisoner until the war's end some ten months later. Following his release, Commander O'Kane received the Medal of Honor for his "conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity" during his submarine's final operations against Japanese shipping. In addition, to the CMOH, RADM O'Kane was awarded three Navy Crosses, and three Silver Stars. NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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Devil's Advocate |
As mentioned, Helmet for My Pillow and Sledge's book. Two other essentials for the ETO are Audie Murphy's autobiographical To Hell and Back, and Bill Mauldin's collection of cartoons (featuring Joe and Willy) he did for Stars and Stripes along with his commentary -- Up Front. If you don't know who he is, Mauldin was a GI/cartoonist who accompanied the infantry through Italy and France, depicting the war for the soldiers, not the brass. It's very hard to believe he was only twenty-three or so when he wrote that book. ________ Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto | |||
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And a novel for the period leading up to our involvement, set at Pearl Harbor, From Here To Eternity, by James Jones. It's a favorite of Joan Didion's, no slouch of a writer herself. Don't let the movie version dissuade you from the novel; it's a fine piece of work and very readable. | |||
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So let it be written, so let it be done... |
A Bridge Too Far by Cornelius Ryan Also - on the novel side - Catch 22 by Joseph Heller 'veritas non verba magistri' | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Ryan's other WW2 history books are worth reading too, including "The Longest Day" and "The Last Battle". Ryan's one of my Top 5 favorite WW2 historians, alongside Atkinson, Beevor, Ambrose, and Hastings. | |||
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The Longest Day - Cornelius Ryan Its been some time since I read it, but it was good, real good. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tomorrow's battle is won during today's practice. | |||
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Band of Brothers was REALLY good, but The Pacific (finished by Ambrose's son) was a harder read, IMHO. I've read all the books Richard "Dick" Winters wrote...good stuff. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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The Rising Sun by John Toland Company Commander Anything by Cornelius Ryan Stephen Ambrose’s books - for the most part The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Guadalcanal Diary 30 Seconds over Tokyo Hiroshima A Man Called Intrepid by William Stevenson __________________________ | |||
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A Higher Call by Adam Makos with Larry Alexander "An incredible true story of combat and chivalry in the war-torn skies of World War II" My uncle was a ball turret gunner. | |||
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definitely. A Man Called Intrepid is the classic true story of Sir William Stephenson (codenamed Intrepid) and the spy network he founded that would ultimately stall the Nazi war machine and help win World War II. | |||
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Don't Panic |
Military history, and WWII ETO in particular, has been an interest of mine for going on 50 years now, and I hate to think of all the books that have gone into that. Bottom line: there are a lot of great recommendations above. I read Shirer's "Rise and Fall" early in the process and it was extremely helpful. Most recently, I've been reading to help me get better grips on details relating to specific questions. First question was 'how did the Nazis get a grip on mainstream German hearts and minds?' and the second was 'how did the Nazi economy work?' RE: the first question how did they win hearts and minds: "The Nazi Seizure of Power" went into depth for one small town, relating how the Nazi's socialistic policies and their nationalistic appeal played out in the early phases. It was very interesting to see how the Nazis did their appeals to the voter base early on to make it plausible for mainstream voters to support them despite their open promotion of some pretty despicable ideas. The bottom line there was they had other irons in the fire than just those historically evil ideas. At a time with national pride at rock-bottom, millions out of work, the Weimar Republic underfunding unemployment programs, and the economy essentially switched 'off', the Nazi's vigorous promotion of work programs and national pride overshadowed all the rest of their stuff. To everyone's eventual detriment, of course. As to the second question: how did the Nazi economy work. Two books that have helped me understand that were "Hitler's Beneficiaries" and "The Wages of Destruction". Both questions are perhaps a bit down in the weeds for general reading on WWII, but if those particular questions have any interest for you, the above are very good resources. | |||
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Can't recommend Neptune's Inferno enough. While the Pearl Harbor attack and Battle at Midway were pivotal points of the war, Guadalcanal is where the Navy learned it's lessons. Lots of detail and insight to what shaped the Navy into the force it is today. This message has been edited. Last edited by: corsair, | |||
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Have Camera - Will Travel Wire Gonzo, Far Bombay |
Again, thanks to all for the recommendations. I have started a separate thread in the Lounge about my Grandfather, his service in WWII as a Combat Medic with the 84th Infantry "Railsplitters", and the many photographs from the war that he left to me when he died. _________________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to prevent bad people from doing bad things to good people. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.-Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
For sure, that is an epic tale, well told. A smaller scale WW II book that I like is “Battleship at War”, by Ivan Musicant. It’s the story of USS Washington, BB-56, from launch to post war scrapyard. Lots of interesting descriptions of daily operations on a WW II battleship. Chapter 5 is particularly interesting. It’s a detailed account of a Solomon Islands naval battle, during which the Washington destroyed the Japanese battleship Kirishima. That was the only instance in WW II where a modern US battleship destroyed a modern Japanese battleship. Or even fired on one, I believe. Serious about crackers | |||
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