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Which James Bond did you use to like, but now find unwatchable?

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April 06, 2020, 09:47 AM
Prefontaine
Which James Bond did you use to like, but now find unwatchable?
Brosnan's stuff are the only ones I cannot watch as I think he is a hack. Belongs on soap operas not 007. We actually walked out of one at the theater.



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April 06, 2020, 12:35 PM
apprentice
Even when I was ten seeing Connery shoot down a helicopter with an AR-7 was more than I could take.

If it's Connery or Moore it may as well be Austin Powers.
April 06, 2020, 12:45 PM
rscalzo
Anything involving underwater scenes, when actually analyzed never holds up. 500 feet...single 80 cf tank???

Many years ago I did a decent amount of diving in the Nassau area. Became friends with a divemaster and we did a lot of the sets for their movies. Tends to ruin the image when you find they are in 20 feet of water. But that makes sense because the nature lighting is much better.


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April 06, 2020, 12:48 PM
YellowJacket
Honor Blackman (Pussy Galore) died today at 94 y.o.



I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
April 06, 2020, 02:37 PM
HRK
Rip Honor Blackman, Goldfinger is one of my favorites, the early bonds were some of the better movies.

If you have Directv they have a featured show Everything or Nothing 007, it's the story of Bond, the actors, producers, writer Ian Flemming, lots of good stuff...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2366308/
April 06, 2020, 02:48 PM
Windhover
quote:
Originally posted by apprentice:
Even when I was ten seeing Connery shoot down a helicopter with an AR-7 was more than I could take.

If it's Connery or Moore it may as well be Austin Powers.


I am not sure if you actually saw the scene. It was From Russia with Love. He didn't shoot down the helicopter conventionally with an AR-7. He shot the guy in the helicopter holding a live grenade. The guy dropped the grenade onto the floor of the helicopter. Boom.

I don't particularly have an issue with that scene.
April 06, 2020, 03:00 PM
jhe888
I never like Moore very much. More campy than Connery at his worst.

Brosnan was okay, but didn't bring anything genuinely interesting to the role. Kind of a yawn.

Same with Dalton, although he tried to be more serious and menacing.

Lazenby is just a footnote to me.

Connery and Craig are the only two I really enjoyed in the part.




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April 06, 2020, 03:32 PM
rat2306
quote:
Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Honor Blackman (Pussy Galore) died today at 94 y.o.


My favorite Connery "Bond" movie is "Goldfinger".
Enjoyed her in many of the early "The Avengers" episodes too.
April 06, 2020, 04:26 PM
Expert308
I read someplace, long ago, that Moore's portrayal of Bond was closer to what Ian Fleming intended than Connery's was. That said, I never liked Roger Moore as Bond. But the OP's question was "Which did you used to like but now don't?", and to that I'd have to say None. I always liked Connery a lot, Dalton some, Craig grew on me after one or two, and the others I basically never liked.
April 06, 2020, 04:27 PM
recoatlift
Goldfinger kinda reminds me of President Trump. Not in a bad way, just looks and physical appearance.

Please say a prayer for him. He’s got to be stressed and in need of good sleep. Thanks.
April 06, 2020, 05:37 PM
StarTraveler
To the original question, Pierce Brosnan was good in Goldeneye but went downhill rapidly from there. Not unwatchable, but most of his efforts are better avoided in my view. He didn't look like he wanted to be there for the last couple.

quote:
Originally posted by rat2306:
quote:
Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Honor Blackman (Pussy Galore) died today at 94 y.o.


My favorite Connery "Bond" movie is "Goldfinger".
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I loved Connery and Goldfinger was the first James Bond movie that I saw when I was about nine years old. It was my favorite Bond film for a long time. RIP Honor Blackman.

While Moore was way too campy, I enjoyed most of his movies with the marked exception of A View to a Kill. That is the low point of the entire Bond franchise to me. Tanya Roberts as a believable Bond girl was only surpassed on the unbelievability scale by Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist.

I've enjoyed most of Daniel Craig's Bond work.

Dalton did a reasonable but rather unremarkable job with the role.

As jhe said, Lazenby is just a footnote.


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April 06, 2020, 11:11 PM
icom706
I read all the Ian Fleming 007 books, and a lot of the John Gardner book.

Connery and Craig are even to me.
Dalton and Lazenby are next and equal to me.
Moore - I am mixed on; they went too humorous for his scripts.
Bronson - never grew on me.

Favorite Bond Girl? Daniela Bianchi/Diana Rigg
Favorite bad girl? Luciana Paluzzi

OHMSS and Casino Royale follow the books closest. Granted the Craig version of Casino Royale was modernized, but after watching it - I give it 11 of 10. It even had the 007 torture scene from the book in the movie - it impressed me.

Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball and You only live Twice followed the books pretty well. Diamonds are forever too.

Live and Let Die they sort of ruined.

Moonraker they really ruined. The casino part in the book where bond and M play bridge against the bad guy would be in a bond movie.

Dalton's License Revoked was the best bond movie in years after the Connery years. Robert Davi was the best villain since any of the Ernest Stravo Blofeld characters.

Agree with Moore in The Saint and in ffolkes. Have both on DVD. Love the ending in ffolkes, one of my all time favorites - Ruth, Esther and Jennifer, meow.


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April 06, 2020, 11:43 PM
YellowJacket
quote:
Originally posted by Expert308:
I read someplace, long ago, that Moore's portrayal of Bond was closer to what Ian Fleming intended than Connery's was. That said, I never liked Roger Moore as Bond. But the OP's question was "Which did you used to like but now don't?", and to that I'd have to say None. I always liked Connery a lot, Dalton some, Craig grew on me after one or two, and the others I basically never liked.


The opposite actually. Fleming's novels have basically zero camp or cheekiness. They are serious, gritty, and Bond is almost dead at the end of pretty much all of them. Craig's films are much closer in tone to Fleming's novels.



I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
April 07, 2020, 08:24 AM
Rinehart
I read all of Fleming's books (which could be brutal to Bond) and always thought that Connery set the bar on the "rawness" factor and along came Craig who added further depth. (Saw the first- Dr. No in a theater as a kid).
I didn't really see that element in the other actors, although Moore seemed to demonstrate more natural charm-
April 07, 2020, 02:42 PM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Lazenby's film (OHMSS) is actually a very good movie, though Lazenby had basically no charisma.

But Diane Rigg!



agreed,

watch is whenever it is one,



Brosnan was destined to be Bond, and did good, until the scipts went to crap,



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April 08, 2020, 11:34 AM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by rscalzo:
Anything involving underwater scenes, when actually analyzed never holds up. 500 feet...single 80 cf tank???

Many years ago I did a decent amount of diving in the Nassau area. Became friends with a divemaster and we did a lot of the sets for their movies. Tends to ruin the image when you find they are in 20 feet of water. But that makes sense because the nature lighting is much better.

Do you get asthma from laughing while watching Thunderball? Wink

I knew and dove with one of the technical advisors and gear wranglers for that movie. Until the Abyss came out in the 80's, I believe Thunderball had the most numerous and biggest underwater shot sequences. Considering it was made in the mid-60's, it was quite an undertaking.