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Can anyone identify this young, female actress or perhaps the title of the film shown in these screen shots? Thanks! | ||
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0581898/?ref_=tt_cl_i_4 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063638/ An East German, communist Western. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Trail of the Falcon (1968) actress name: Lali Meskhi | |||
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Very interesting. I was unaware such a film type existed. Thanks for the ID. | |||
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Germany overall has a long-standing obsession with the Old West particularly emphasizing the culture of American Indians which largely goes back to the "Winnetou" novels of 19th century adventure writer Karl May, and before that, James Fenimore Cooper. Their books were turned into West German movies and TV films shot in Yugoslavia and Romania during the 60s, while East German productions also used locations in Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria and the Caucasus. Yugoslavian actor Gojko Mitić played native roles in both, but particularly rose to fame in East Germany. Frenchman Pièrre Briece became iconic for playing noble Apache chief Winnetou in the West, while his German blood brother "Old Shatterhand" (Karl May's alter ego telling the Winnetou stories) was American actor Lex Barker, who probably was noted for his lead in the 1957 "The Deerslayer" based upon Cooper's book. There's an entire Wiki article about the image of Native Americans in German pop culture. | |||
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Thank you BansheeOne I too did not know German westerns existed. The Winnetou clip was great. | |||
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Well as Westerns, they tended to be a bit cheesy. In the case of the May adaptions, the author had never even set foot in the US when he wrote the books, so they included a lot of falsehoods and stereotypes, amplified with Hollywood stereotypes in the movies. TV productions like the "Leatherstockings Stories" suffered in production values, too; if you want to see British redcoats fighting Chippewas with Romanian Mausers, the entire series is on Youtube, though in borderline watchable resolution. Still, together with classic American, and later Italian, Westerns and US shows like "Gunsmoke" and "Bonanza" they were hugely popular, and informed the Old West image of Germans from the 60s. I'm not sure if it's unusual among Europeans, but playing Cowboys and Indians was a staple of my childhood in the 70s and 80s; we had a pair of toystore wigwams and all. There's still a lively scene of Western reenactor clubs, theme parks, and the annual Karl May open-air festivals in several locations, most famously in Bad Segeberg, Schleswig-Holstein. Just recently there was a popular storm of indignation when a publisher withdrew two "Young Winnetou" books over the inevitable accusations of cultural appropriation, ethnic stereotypes etc.
https://m.dw.com/en/publishers...n-germany/a-62907190 Of course the best (Austrian-) German (neo-) Western is probably the 2014 "Dark Valley", not even set in the US rather than in a small 19th century village in the Alps to which the son of a local woman who emigrated to America returns in search of revenge. | |||
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Thanks to the collective knowledge possessed by the SIGforum membership, this has evolved into a very informative thread. I have actually seen Dark Valley. For fans of the revisionist western genre, the film is aptly titled with an emphasis on dark. Check it out. | |||
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The plot summary from the imdb.com webpage:
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It's rumored that just before production began, a character was eliminated from the script for reasons unknown: Farsighted Falcon's brother, Myopic Mongoose. | |||
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Para, as usual your knowledge has opened doors for the rest of us. From the Wikipedia page on DEFA (Deutsche Film-Aktuellen Gesellschaft):
Many thanks to BansheeOne for posting the information about the wild, longstanding popularity of Karl May novels in Germany, and the uproar over recent withdrawal of publication. When I studied in Berlin in 1965-66 I first read about Old Shatterhand Winnetou etc. and was quite surprised at their popularity, particularly given that May had never been to the U.S. A few years ago I asked a German acquaintance if these were still popular, and he said indeed they were. It seems that German portrayals of the American west are about as accurate as Hogan's Heroes was of Germany. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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