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I think I see. Is this one of those things where you get to say “you just don’t get it, mannnnn”?
 
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I think I see. Is this one of those things where you get to say “you just don’t get it, mannnnn”?


I've known lots of people who've said, "I don't like the Dead". All of them follow up with the one Dead song they do like. Keep looking, you haven't found yours yet. It's a pretty extensive catalog. Hell, you must be curious. You started the thread.


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I think I see. Is this one of those things where you get to say “you just don’t get it, mannnnn”?


I've known lots of people who've said, "I don't like the Dead". All of them follow up with the one Dead song they do like. Keep looking, you haven't found yours yet. It's a pretty extensive catalog. Hell, you must be curious. You started the thread.
I am curious. FOMO and all that.
 
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I’ll add, if anyone’s got the “Skull and Roses” live album on vinyl, in great condition, maybe we can make a deal. Wink

ETA: Just discovered that there was an import reissue released last year. I guess if I really want it, I can get it.


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I am curious. FOMO and all that.


Keep looking, you'll find your song. Unfortunately, the experience is lost to time and relegated to memory, or lack thereof.

(PS: I had to look up FOMO)



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was never a fan,

My middle Niece is, and has been for years (she is late 20's and likes a lot of jam bands)

I had a coworker years ago that went to any show within a few hours drive, and saw them lots, ,

he loved the weed too,



meanwhile, I do love me some Dave Grisman, and would be considered a Del Head,

I've seen Grisman (quintet and quartet) over a handful of times, Tony Rice once (RIP) and Del and his kids well over a handful of times


even had the pleasure of seeing Del and Dave on a tour together,


Grisman's Acoustic Disc library is worth a look,



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I was friends with some Deadheads in college, they were diehards. They went to as many shows as possible, they collected tapes, one of them would get a mixing board feed at times, he knew some of the sound guys.

I tried to like the Grateful Dead. I bought American Beauty, played it maybe twice, never touched it again. I went to see them with my friends at the Greek Theater in the early 80s, and spent much of time wandering around people watching, didn't care for the concert at all.

Like the OP, I just simply don't get it. With guys like Springsteen, U2, Guns N Roses, I dislike their music, but I understand their mass appeal. But not with the Dead. At the time of the early 80s, I was into punk, new wave, and just starting to listen to post-punk Indie music. Even in early high school with Zeppelin, Nugent, did not like the Dead.



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I do think it's the music. It's the groove they are able to establish live...it's why their tapes are traded and everything they have ever done is recorded and traded around. I'm not a Deadhead and believe their greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.
 
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New Riders of the Purple Sage for the win. I never understood the whole Deadhead thing (or its successor, the Phishheads).

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Saw them back in 1978, buddy had tickets, Rupp arena held 24,000 plus and there were maybe 2,000 people all over the place.

The band invited everyone to come down close and make it a closer small if possible event, and everyone moved in closer.

Music wasn't great, didn't know a lot of their songs but wanted to be at the show, it was the Dead.... Anyway, it was a pot filled show, as much as a few thousand dead heads could fill the air of Rupp with smoke LOL

We left early and hit a local bar...

You can listen to the concert from 1978 at the link - after listening to it, I remember why we left Big Grin

1978 Rupp Concert Link
 
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I read that Garcia was guy who grew in up a family where dad was a blue grass musician. Lots of jamming and improvisation. Garcia absorbed it and the BG mentality and culture was woven into the Grateful Dead. Kind of a Bluegrass culture playing rock, blues, with nods to jazz, country and other styles. Their music seemed to float from one style to the other effortlessly. Laid back, not trying to be the best in the world but having a good time and taking musical risks.

Easy to mentally get on that train as a listener and follow where the theme and improvisation lead if you were a listener who could attain a sort of “relaxed” meditative state of mind either naturally or with the use some kind enhancement substance such as Boone’s Farm or other assistance.

The culture was akin to going to a laid back party with your easy going friends where some friendly attendees picked up some instruments and began playing.

Or so I’ve been told.
 
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No real idea as the only song that I like, maybe even only ever heard, is 'Survive'. So I reckoned that the draw was the marijuana and being able to smoke marijuana in public with thousands of other marijuana smokers.

FWIW, I don't smoke marijuana but I do like the music of David Peel and the Lower East Side having bought the album 'Have a Marijuana' from a bargain bin about forty years ago. Cheap, loud, and anarchic... good enough for a buck. And I like the Shaggs. So weird music is not an automatic disqualifier.

Regarding Deadheads, I was once in a cafe whence some DHs ate before a concert. The tremendous fucking mess that was left on, under, and around the table could have been attributed to a debauch of drunken epiletic monkeys.


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They're no fuckin Metallica, and that's for damn sure...
 
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Girlfriend at the time drug me to one of their concerts back in the 90’s. Talk about a shitty night. Actually that was a shitty weekend. Car got towed, got a speeding ticket, ended up in the hospital. Yea, not a big fan of the Grateful Dead.
 
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The Grateful Dead is still discussed and people still tell me they love them.

I don’t get their popularity or why they are considered among the greats.
Who can explain them to me?
I really want to understand.


It is simple: it is the music plus the culture.

I like the music but I am not it the above category.

Nothing wrong with that if that (just like any thing else) you are in to.
But I don't think anyone should bash them because you don't agree.
Music is a very personal thing that should be respected.
There are some that I absolutely love and others not so much - to each their own. Eek
 
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I read that Garcia was guy who grew in up a family where dad was a blue grass musician. Lots of jamming and improvisation. Garcia absorbed it and the BG mentality and culture was woven into the Grateful Dead. Kind of a Bluegrass culture playing rock, blues, with nods to jazz, country and other styles. Their music seemed to float from one style to the other effortlessly. Laid back, not trying to be the best in the world but having a good time and taking musical risks.

Easy to mentally get on that train as a listener and follow where the theme and improvisation lead if you were a listener who could attain a sort of “relaxed” meditative state of mind either naturally or with the use some kind enhancement substance such as Boone’s Farm or other assistance.

The culture was akin to going to a laid back party with your easy going friends where some friendly attendees picked up some instruments and began playing.

Or so I’ve been told.


garcia had a side gig , he was in a bluegrass band with Grisman,



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I went to a couple of concerts in the '70s, they could be great or not so great. I walked out of one, NRPS opened and were terrific. Went to a small venue, was invited by a fan club member, was a great concert, had a great date, one of my favorite concerts. I was not high at any of them, I had given up weed in 1972. Years passed and I was never really into them, that has changed and now they are about the only music I listen to. I've started to read a little on them, they truly were a product of the '60s.

My date from that concert and I have reconnected, she's a terrific artist, photographer. We had some fun catching up. I'm 78 and she's 66, amazing. I was 33 she was 21 when we saw the Dead.


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Get Without a Net and listen to it exclusively for three weeks, all day.

By the fourth week you’ll understand The Dead or you’ll never listen to them again.





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Get Without a Net and listen to it exclusively for three weeks, all day.

By the fourth week you’ll understand The Dead or you’ll never listen to them again.

That sounds like a pretty silly; I assume it’s a joke.

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Read Tom Wolfe's book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test for some good history of the era, including Timothy Leary, Ken Kesey and his Merry Pranksters, and the beginnings of the Grateful Dead, who provided the music at the Acid Test parties.



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