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Netflix-The Professor and the Madman

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December 18, 2020, 07:20 PM
PHPaul
Netflix-The Professor and the Madman
The story of the beginning of the compilation of the Oxford English Dictionary.

You'd think it would be mind-numbing, but I recommend it.

Mel Gibson and Sean Penn.

For years, I have detested Sean Penn as a person and allowed that to color my opinion of virtually every movie he's ever been in. He was absolutely brilliant in this and, much as it pains me, I may be forced to cut him some slack in future efforts.

Mel was Mel. Good, but not outstanding.




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December 18, 2020, 07:33 PM
0-0
I enjoyed it , very much.

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December 19, 2020, 11:51 AM
AUTiger89
The movie was quite good. I listened to the audiobook years ago, and it was fascinating.




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December 21, 2020, 12:36 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
I spent several very enjoyable hours watching it last evening. I probably would have skipped over it based on the short synopsis on Netflix had I encountered it by chance. Thanks for the recommendation.

Up until the earthquake in Haiti, I shared an opinion of Penn quite similar to yours. However, a relative who was there in the immediate aftermath with a medical disaster relief team met him several times and said he was nothing like his public Communist dictator-loving persona in person. He was responsible for getting some very important and much needed lifesaving equipment delivered when others, mostly large government organizations, were unable to do so and he did it without fanfare or camera coverage. I still find his politics loathsome but he seems to genuinely care deeply about those in dire need and is willing to put up not-inconsequential amounts of his own money to relieve suffering when he can.
December 21, 2020, 12:22 PM
pulicords
Thanks for the OP and comments! I watched it as a result of seeing what SF members had to say and was thoroughly impressed by the production. Penn's presence made me think that the film was going to be another leftist go at the "all murderers are oppressed" narrative. Not that case here. The character played by Sean Penn was clearly guilty of a horrible crime, but also seriously mentally ill. His ability to accept responsibility for his acts and be accountable were real and the attempts by the staff of the facility where he was imprisoned realistically reflected their humanity. Not all homicides are "equal" and they shouldn't be dealt with by society alike (some are not only lawful, but commendable). This movie's script recognized the importance of individual accountability according to the law and how that extended to those charged with enforcing the law in a very positive manner.

On the historical aspect: I loved learning about the how and why the English Oxford Dictionary came to be. Mel Gibson's portrayal was excellent and the practical as well as political forces at work to prevent the project from being accomplished were very interesting to learn about.

Really a great movie!!!!


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December 21, 2020, 12:58 PM
6guns
Thanks for the recommendation. I really enjoyed and like others have said, the acting was very realistic in my view.




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December 22, 2020, 10:26 PM
cas
I'm shutting it off half way through because I really need to get to bed. But it's really good. So far everyone's been wonderful, I'd recommend it to anyone who doesn't need explosions and car crashes in every movie. Smile


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December 23, 2020, 10:55 AM
SIG228
Very good and highly recommended.
December 25, 2020, 08:44 PM
MRBTX
I would agree with all your comments on this movie. Maybe Penn's best work, it was definitely worth the watch. Thumbs up.
December 25, 2020, 11:44 PM
aparoche
I have the completely opposite opinion. Yes, the acting was good but the movie’s plot was so uninspiring and boring that I really didn’t care what happened by the end of the movie. Boring...

The movie’s Wikipedia page even says Gibson fought the release of this version of the film with the studio and wanted to make additional edits. Gibson essentially disowned the film.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...and_the_Madman_(film)
December 27, 2020, 04:14 PM
G-Man
Just finished it and agree it is definitely worth the watch. Great story and acting all around.
December 27, 2020, 05:05 PM
cas
quote:
Originally posted by aparoche:
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The movie’s Wikipedia page even says Gibson fought the release of this version of the film with the studio and wanted to make additional edits. Gibson essentially disowned the film.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...and_the_Madman_(film)


Well the good thing is it's wikipedia so basically anyone can go change it to. lol



According to Rotten Tomatoes, most people don't like it. But then again, most people are idiots.
December 27, 2020, 08:05 PM
aparoche
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
quote:
Originally posted by aparoche:
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The movie’s Wikipedia page even says Gibson fought the release of this version of the film with the studio and wanted to make additional edits. Gibson essentially disowned the film.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...and_the_Madman_(film)


Well the good thing is it's wikipedia so basically anyone can go change it to. lol



According to Rotten Tomatoes, most people don't like it. But then again, most people are idiots.


Okay, here’s another source for you...

https://deadline.com/2019/04/m...reaction-1202589514/
quote:
“This was a labor of love for the entire creative team, and it is unfortunate for all concerned that this film was never finished as written,” Gibson declared. “I regret that this film will never be seen as it was meant to be. Making it was never about money for Icon, it was about bringing this amazing story to the big screen. Sadly that has not happened in the way it could have.”

“The Voltage version of this film is a bitter disappointment to me,” the actor concluded.

January 02, 2021, 09:01 PM
Oz_Shadow
Acting was good, but I really did not enjoy the way they presented the story. My wife did not enjoy it either.
January 02, 2021, 09:07 PM
Prefontaine
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:

For years, I have detested Sean Penn as a person and allowed that to color my opinion of virtually every movie he's ever been in. He was absolutely brilliant in this and, much as it pains me, I may be forced to cut him some slack in future efforts.



He is a brilliant actor. Been watching him for 40 years, since the movie “Taps”.
I just ignore his politics and commentary on anything.

I liked this film very much. Penn was usual outstanding and Mel nailed the Scottish accent and was solid. The actors playing the staff at Oxford, with the nose in the air, nailed it but that’s easy for a British actor to be a pompous ass Big Grin



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January 03, 2021, 11:53 AM
sig229-SAS
Like others, I may not have watched it, but based on the replies of a lot of SF members I did. I really did enjoy it.

Thanks for the heads up!