What good do you think this does? Are you that thin-skinned? I'm not going to address this with you any further.

How about this? Take your time, use the search feature, provide evidence to back up your claim, and I'll take back what I said.

You seem to be completely ignoring the fact that you started this with the following post:

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Be careful....Don't say Pmags fail on this forum...You will get ripped apart.

I'm very confident this is simply not true, but, you show me evidence of this "ripping apart" you claimed happens around here over the subject of Pmags, and I'll eat my words.

Take your time. Tomorrow, the next day, any time soon.

If you don't think this is fair, then, you're just not serious about it.

Been here since 2007, picks a fight with the owner now. Smart move!

The MFT thread from May?
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...960057184#7960057184

You're not really holding a grudge on that are you?

If that's his idea of being "ripped apart"...

How's it coming with that evidence, snowflake? I would think the opportunity to make me eat my words would be highly motivating for you.

crickets

very touchy crickets

What about Lancer mags? Interesting design, but PMAGs do have more of a track record. I was curious to try one. Currently, most of my mags are aluminum C-Products, but I was going to expand my PMAG inventory.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
What about Lancer mags? Interesting design, but PMAGs do have more of a track record. I was curious to try one. Currently, most of my mags are aluminum C-Products, but I was going to expand my PMAG inventory.

Lancer were always good back when I spent more time researching the products I wanted to sell. Lancer's were very popular. I believe the L5 model or something it was called.

Personally, I am to the point where I prefer whatever quality mag I can get cheapest. I PREFER the better stacking and storing capability of USGI mags, but I don't pass up PMAGs when I can get a good price. Was just able to get 10 for 80$ from PSA so I added it to the order.

I'm at a good 50/50 split of USGI and PMAGs. Not by design, just worked out that way. And I'm still "using" the same 5-6 pmags I first bought, the other 50 or so are still brand new. So I have 100% confidence in both PMAGS and USGI to do what they are intended to do. Last a long time then get thrown away.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
What about Lancer mags?

The military tested them and they failed. Not even close to gen 3 PMAGS in reliability.

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Originally posted by Mettlepig:

Feel free to back up your claim that i am a "Snowflake".

That you're still going on about it seems proof enough.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
What about Lancer mags?

The military tested them and they failed. Not even close to gen 3 PMAGS in reliability.

Do you have a link to where you learned this so we could read more about it?

^^^^^^

2015 U.S. Army Aberdeen Test Center
https://www.military.com/daily...ne-fielded-2016.html

https://www.thefirearmblog.com...-force-spokesperson/

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Originally posted by powermad:
2015 U.S. Army Aberdeen Test Center
https://www.military.com/daily...ne-fielded-2016.html

https://www.thefirearmblog.com...-force-spokesperson/

There's no mention of Lancer in either of those articles other than speculations and opinions in the comments, much less any statement that Lancer failed the test.

As far as I know Magpul is the only one to come out and say who they were in that test.
They were given Foxtrot.
Official Report
I vaguely remember discussions on this on arfcom or m4carbine where Magpul was answering questions about it.

I'm familiar with that report. Bear in mind that test was specific to M855A1 ammunition and to state that Lancer mags are "Not even close to gen 3 PMAGS in reliability" based on that test is misleading.

If we were to make the assumption that Lancer mags are inferior based on that test, then we would have to also assume that all mags other than PMAGS are also inferior.

As someone that has many, many, many tens of thousands of rounds down range in the AR15 rifle, I will side with the military report. PMAG gen 3 is the cream of the crop mag. I have had Lancer mags shit the bed. Personally. Seen it with my own eyes. I WANTED the Lancer mags to be superior. But they are not.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If your life is on the line , you should have gen 3 PMAGS in your rifle.

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’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If your life is on the line , you should have gen 3 PMAGS in your rifle.

Ah yes. All those aluminum GI mags in service where no lives where on the line thankfully.

I am completely comfortable with them and Lancers as my go to mags for whatever the case may be.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
As someone that has many, many, many tens of thousands of rounds down range in the AR15 rifle
I have had Lancer mags shit the bed. Personally. Seen it with my own eyes.

Curious as to the failures...
...failures with updated, current version of the mag?

Failing to feed, broken housing, bad springs, spreading, baseplates breaking, jamming, etc. ?

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:

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’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If your life is on the line , you should have gen 3 PMAGS in your rifle.

Ah yes. All those aluminum GI mags in service where no lives where on the line thankfully.

The Marines issue gen 3 PMAGS.

I have a ton of GI aluminum mags and they are good too, but not as good as gen 3 PMAGS. Which is all I was saying. If you have a CHOICE, and your life is on the line, you should pick the best mag for your rifle. Which is the gen 3 PMAG.