Heard about this on another forum, and did not see any press release or anything on the web. I called them and spoke to a woman who states it is true; Okay Industries will not be involved in the magazine business after 2022.

Okay makes a great AR15 magazine, I like the Surefeeds better than the P-Mags, and I have plenty of Gen 2 & 3 versions. The woman I spoke to was interested in how I found out about it, she said nothing was released and she has been getting a number of calls.

Here is Surefeed's contact, which is the same as Okay Industries site, a medical device company.

Well that is disappointing. I too prefer them to any other mag. Being located in CT it wouldn’t surprise me if this is politically motivated in some way.

anyone who hasn't been stocking up on AR mags over the last 10 years is a moron.

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anyone who hasn't been stocking up on AR mags over the last 10 years is a moron.

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interesting comment that has nothing to do with the OP,,


by the way, I was stocked up more than 10 yrs ago,



also interesting about OK, I did not know they did medical stuff, I always thought they just did mags etc


wondering if the competition is a bit much or if they lost a contract?

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anyone who hasn't been stocking up on AR mags over the last 10 years is a moron.

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Or they are a new shooter, just turned 18, never had anyone teach them about guns, just became a citizen, just moved to a free state.
Quite a few reasons actually.

That is disappointing
I never actually seen one in the wild until I got to AFG.

If I think back, I only had about four or five before I got deployed.

I brought home a few brand mags, some of which were Okay and a few used mags which were a collection of PMAG, Brownell, and Colt.

I have stated this before but I tend to gravitate towards "metal" mags and let the young guns have the PMAGS.

I also did not know they had a medical side or that their history goes back to WWII where they helped manufacture millions of M1 Carbine magazines for the United States Military

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Originally posted by Sig209:
anyone who hasn't been stocking up on AR mags over the last 10 years is a moron.

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Or they are a new shooter, just turned 18, never had anyone teach them about guns, just became a citizen, just moved to a free state.
Quite a few reasons actually.

those are all lame excuses and you know it.

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Or they are a new shooter, just turned 18, never had anyone teach them about guns, just became a citizen, just moved to a free state.
Quite a few reasons actually.

Lack of funds, probably being the biggest reason.

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also interesting about OK, I did not know they did medical stuff, I always thought they just did mags etc

Yeah, this kind of surprised me. Had no idea.

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I also did not know they had a medical side or that their history goes back to WWII where they helped manufacture millions of M1 Carbine magazines for the United States Military

Kinda. Okay Industries itself doesn't date back that far. Eddie Okay bought out an existing tool and die company - B. Jahn Manufacturing - in 1969, and renamed it Okay Industries.

B. Jahn Mfg. had been producing USGI M1 Carbine and M3 Grease Gun magazines, though their contracts were primarily during the Korea/Vietnam era rather than WW2.

I believe they will sell the tooling to someone else. Those machines have been pumping out magazines for decades.

But why?

Did the lawyers get to them about liability?

They already have the machines. I can't imagine they've been losing money on the operation.

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But why?

If I had to guess based upon most of the other companies out there, it was a business decision.

Most companies are now having to prioritize their most lucrative products, and trim the fat on the others. Many businesses do not have the man power to be very diverse. Nobody wants to work all of a sudden, costs have tripled, raw materials are impossible to find, and parts for your machines are impossible to find.

It’s a business reality of life living with Brandon.

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
But why?

If I had to guess based upon most of the other companies out there, it was a business decision.

Most companies are now having to prioritize their most lucrative products, and trim the fat on the others. Many businesses do not have the man power to be very diverse. Nobody wants to work all of a sudden, costs have tripled, raw materials are impossible to find, and parts for your machines are impossible to find.

Plus, maybe there isn’t as much demand for metal mags these days. Most newer shooters gravitate to the Pmags (which almost every new 5.56 gun seems to come with, so when they buy extra mags, they tend to buy the same thing) and shooters who have been around a while and want metal mags are probably already stacked high and deep with them.

I'm sure its a calculated decision but unfortunate due to their quality.

If they are also in the medical device business, maybe their other products have much higher profit margins than simple magazines.

The top 3 causes of death (USA) are medical issues, Heart diseases, cancers, and COVID19...

Medical devices/services are a growing industry and will be with the USA's demographics and current situation.

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
But why?

If I had to guess based upon most of the other companies out there, it was a business decision.

Most companies are now having to prioritize their most lucrative products, and trim the fat on the others. Many businesses do not have the man power to be very diverse. Nobody wants to work all of a sudden, costs have tripled, raw materials are impossible to find, and parts for your machines are impossible to find.

Plus, maybe there isn’t as much demand for metal mags these days. Most newer shooters gravitate to the Pmags (which almost every new 5.56 gun seems to come with, so when they buy extra mags, they tend to buy the same thing) and shooters who have been around a while and want metal mags are probably already stacked high and deep with them.

That makes a lot of sense. I'm sure P Mags has a sizable market share plus all the other plastic magazine manufacturers.

I imagine if if they decide to get of the magazine business someone else will be happy to take over the old tooling.

Yeah, but hopefully it's not another ASC. They bought their tooling from the old C Products company before it went bust and was reborn as C Products Defense (now something else). ASC never could quite get their mags to function right consistently, at least in my experience, so I assume there's more to making mags right than just buying the tooling.