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I wanna go home
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I have become addicted to bullpups and will get one when the feeding frenzy ends.
 
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In the below video, starting at around 0:50, you can see footage of Iraqi police forces utilizing the VHS-2's next-gen "Inshallah" indirect fire feature.

This nifty firing mode doesn't actually require you to aim at your target. Instead, you can just point the muzzle in the general direction of your target and pull the trigger, resulting in effective hits (if God wills it).

Hopefully, Springfield hasn't neutered this handy firing mode from the US civilian models.

 
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How come Rob Leatham is not demonstrating. Does it have a Grip Zone?
 
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Does it have a Grip Zone?


Nope. For this gun they outsourced grip production to BCM, and the grip designer at BCM isn't an idiot like the one at SAI. Big Grin

(Seriously, though... The Hellion uses a BCM Gunfighter Mod 3 grip, just like their Springfield Saint ARs do.)
 
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I don't like most bullpups. I think the Tavor has been one of the few exceptions. I think I like this one.

Not likely buying one, though. No budget for a $2k rifle.



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Nope. For this gun they outsourced grip production to BCM, and the grip designer at BCM isn't an idiot like the one at SAI.

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I'd have to say I was skeptical until I saw the Forgotten Weapons video. That is a very cool design, even though it fails in the aesthetic category.

Swappable magwell, the ease of converting from left to right ejection, the takedown, the layout of controls. Very cool.

Because of how easily parts come off, I'm seeing the potential for a lot of aftermarket modifications and replacement parts. An upper that didn't look like a FAMAS abortion would be nice.


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An upper that didn't look like a FAMAS abortion would be nice.


That style of upper is intended to provide protection for the top-mounted ambidextrous charging handle, while still allowing easy access. Other guns with top-mounted charging handles, like the original AR10, the FAMAS, the Type 95, and the G36, all have similar upper designs.




 
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I don't understand the "protected" cocking handle. We don't put big railings on the sides of our AKs, to protect the cocking handles. How does a handle on the top have any greater chance of being a problem than one on the side? I think it might have more to do with an optic mounting option, than cocking handle protection.
 
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I’ve wanted a bullpup rifle but I shoot long guns left-handed because I am left eye dominant and this has limited my options to a few specific models but this may be the ticket.

Also, it looks like something out of Star Wars so I want it.


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An upper that didn't look like a FAMAS abortion would be nice.


That style of upper is intended to provide protection for the top-mounted ambidextrous charging handle, while still allowing easy access. Other guns with top-mounted charging handles, like the original AR10, the FAMAS, the Type 95, and the G36, all have similar upper designs.



I understand the purpose; I just don't see the point. The design has so many other easily ambidextrous or reversible features, so why not make the charging handle on the side and easily swapped to the other side? It seems like they could have gotten the top rail closer to the bore axis that way.


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Holy crap. People are bidding in excess of $3000 for these things.



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looks good to me

if it passes the 'poorly trained user' reliability test of 3rd world craphole nations -- it's probably pretty stout

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Hopefully, Springfield hasn't neutered this handy firing mode from the US civilian models.


Big Grin




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Hopefully, Springfield hasn't neutered this handy firing mode from the US civilian models.


Big Grin




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What I found humorous about your guy (unlike some later in the video) was that he wasn’t even gaining any protection from shooting it that way. He was still just as exposed as if he’d been aiming and shooting, and maybe less. I wonder if he was so accustomed to shooting that way that he didn’t even think about cover.




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I want one!

Can't buy one at the moment.

But I really want one. Looks like an awesome Bullpen.


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Looks like an awesome Bullpen.


Or, an awesome Balrog.


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Interesting. But not at the MSRP in my opinion.

I'll still take my AUG if I need to trip the light fantastic with a bullpup.
 
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