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Brownells now has a 25rd AR mag
May 25, 2024, 06:35 PM
SigmundBrownells now has a 25rd AR mag
https://www.brownells.com/gun-...body-steel-magazine/Is there a market for this? Are there states with a 26 rd limit?
May 25, 2024, 06:41 PM
sigfreundInteresting.
According to the description they are to replicate the first magazines made for the rifles and therefore for the people who want the true repro builds.
My first exposure to M16 magazines was a long time ago in a land far away, and at the time I never saw, or even knew existed, anything other than the (nominal) 20-round version.
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I can tell at sight a Chassepot rifle from a javelin. May 25, 2024, 06:50 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Interesting.
According to the description they are to replicate the first magazines made for the rifles and therefore for the people who want the true repro builds.
Yes
The very first pre-production AR-15 prototype, serial number XAR1501
May 25, 2024, 06:52 PM
KSGMThe way I understand it, the curved mags are much more reliable. Some older GI mags were straight to enable more convenient fitment into ammo boxes. I have heard it said that the magazines were at one point intended to be disposable, and were issued loaded, akin to M1 clips. I have a straight 20rd and a curved 20rd; the straight one will give me problems.
I wonder if the mag in Para's picture was designed per Army requirements, or if Stoner's original design was indeed straight. He favored constant-curve later, with the design of Stoner63 mags.
May 25, 2024, 07:12 PM
sourdough44$57 seems a little steep. I’ll pass.
May 25, 2024, 07:33 PM
Sigmundquote:
Originally posted by sourdough44:
$57 seems a little steep. I’ll pass.
I agree, but for Memorial Day you can get 15% off:
Enjoy 15% off sitewide with code MDAY15.Thanks to Sigfreund for posting the Brownells description, I never thought to find my answer there.
May 25, 2024, 08:42 PM
P250UA5I like my 20s for the flush with the grip height.
Be interested to see these in a rifle, to see how they fall re the grip.
And for the price, I'll grab 3 magpul 20s or a Lancer
The Enemy's gate is down. May 26, 2024, 01:18 PM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
Is there a market for this?
I'm guessing it's almost entirely aimed at the clone build guys. The AR has gone through so many permutations and variations over the years, and some of these various bits and bobs, you just can't find to complete your recreation of whatever picture you found somewhere that really tickles your fancy. Thus, we have things like this now.
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May 26, 2024, 04:58 PM
flesheatingvirusMust be for the folks who don't want to load a full 30 for reliability.
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June 02, 2024, 11:59 AM
MalyshHere's one of the Brownell's 25 rd. magazines in my Colt XM-177E2 SBR.
Although not correct for this model carbine, I like the looks of it.
June 02, 2024, 01:07 PM
JoshNCThese mags are 100% for the retro cloner market.
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Originally posted by KSGM:
The way I understand it, the curved mags are much more reliable. Some older GI mags were straight to enable more convenient fitment into ammo boxes. I have heard it said that the magazines were at one point intended to be disposable, and were issued loaded, akin to M1 clips. I have a straight 20rd and a curved 20rd; the straight one will give me problems.
I wonder if the mag in Para's picture was designed per Army requirements, or if Stoner's original design was indeed straight. He favored constant-curve later, with the design of Stoner63 mags.
That AR15 design predates any Army requirements.
The curved mags were a later development after the AR15 was adopted and type classified as the M16 in order to give additional capacity over the 20 round mags. Straight 20s are very reliable.
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June 02, 2024, 01:19 PM
KSGMquote:
Straight 20s are very reliable
I need to get a couple more to try then. The one I have isn't super reliable.
June 02, 2024, 07:30 PM
94hokieHave never had a 25, but love my straight 20’s for the range.
June 02, 2024, 10:25 PM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by KSGM:
The one I have isn't super reliable.
Modern manufacture, or old vintage Colt? I have probably a dozen 60's and 70's production Colt 20's and I can't recall ever having a feed issue with them. Mostly use them from the bench or taking pictures for giggles, but still.
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June 02, 2024, 11:12 PM
JoshNCquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
quote:
Originally posted by KSGM:
The one I have isn't super reliable.
Modern manufacture, or old vintage Colt? I have probably a dozen 60's and 70's production Colt 20's and I can't recall ever having a feed issue with them. Mostly use them from the bench or taking pictures for giggles, but still.
Same.
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June 03, 2024, 05:17 AM
KSGMI am pretty sure it's old Colt. It's got the different feed lips. Last time I had trouble with it, it was fully-loaded with 73gr FTX Critical Defense. It had two or three problems early in that mag; when it's under-loaded, it does fine.
Research indicates it's a proper old Colt mag. Alloy follower and "UI" marking on front edge. Apparently Universal Industries was a sub-contractor for Colt. Colt markings on the floor plate.