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What I want:

LPVO 1-6, below a pound, BDC illuminated crosshair reticle. Capped turrets.

Leupold VX-6 HD Everything except capped turrets( that I can find) everything I can find has exposed turrets.

Vortex Razor. Everything except too heavy.
Razor E lighter, but still heavy. $400 more than heavy razor.

Vortex Viper PST II. Still a bit heavy, no BDC.

These are the ones I know. This is also my max price points.

Any other suggestions? US Optics?


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Posts: 6501 | Location: Cantonment/Perdido Key, Florida | Registered: September 28, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This is like looking for a 10 hot / 1 crazy.

Under a pound is really tough, not much at that weight, but I will watch and see what comes along.


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There sure seems to be a lot of compromise in the LPVO segment. The capped turrets would be the part I would let go if the weight and other features were musts.
 
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VX6 Multigun





I like my VX6 multigun.

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Vx6 hd is it. It’s just the turret is now Only available with the CD SL2 turret. Not capped.


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Vx6 hd is it. It’s just the turret is now Only available with the CD SL2 turret. Not capped.


I searched the one out pictured for that very reason. I watched ebay and gun broker for 3 months.


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Steiner T5Xi is 19.7 ounces


I have one, great optic. Razor is better, but if weight is a big deal, go Steiner.

5x vs 6x, I cant even tell a difference frankly.
 
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They used to make a Multigun w/ capped turrets.

https://www.leupold.com/scopes...-6-1-6x24mm-multigun
 
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I've tried to like Leupold in this scope class, but it's apparent they want people to buy their MK6 1-6x scope so they make these compromise VX6 models with wonkey features and VX-R Patrols with 1.25 low ends instead of 1x.

I like the PST Gen 2 quite a lot. I'm sure it's not as lightweight feeling as a 16oz scope, but it's only 21 oz and the reticle / illum / glass is great for the $600 price point.

I may upgrade to a Razor HD-E and move the PST to a training rifle, but its so hard to not like the PST Gen 2.
 
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Leupold will (or used to, anyway) change the type adjustment controls on their scopes. I’ve had that done in the other direction. It might be worth a query. It’s not free, of course, but if it’s important enough to you and there are no other good options ….




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Kahles K16i is 16.9 oz, but likely blows your budget.

I love mine. Great illum and clarity

Check the Athalon Cronus. 18.8 oz, but not capped turrets.



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I've tried to like Leupold in this scope class, but it's apparent they want people to buy their MK6 1-6x scope so they make these compromise VX6 models with wonkey features and VX-R Patrols with 1.25 low ends instead of 1x.

I like the PST Gen 2 quite a lot. I'm sure it's not as lightweight feeling as a 16oz scope, but it's only 21 oz and the reticle / illum / glass is great for the $600 price point.

I may upgrade to a Razor HD-E and move the PST to a training rifle, but its so hard to not like the PST Gen 2.


Yeah. Ok so if I get the BDC and zero at 200, it for the turret to work properly, you would zero at 100. Doesn’t make sense to have both. May just get a Vortex an be done with it. I don’t mind turning dials on a bench gun but for out and about I would use the BDC.


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Leupold will (or used to, anyway) change the type adjustment controls on their scopes. I’ve had that done in the other direction. It might be worth a query. It’s not free, of course, but if it’s important enough to you and there are no other good options ….


Up until about 6 months ago, the capped turret was an option on the VX6 on the website. CAnt find it on the customize page any more.


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The primary functions of the scope should rule the purchase decision -- magnification, optics clarity, reticle, adjustments (turrets), ability to hold zero.

Plus or minus a few ounces of weight shouldn't matter much in the overall scheme of a rifle. This assumes you're not humping the rifle for hours a day, for days on end, up and down steep hills, with lots of gear on your back, in difficult weather. This ain't you. A handful of extra ounces should not make or break what may be the best scope on your list.

We all have budgets, but let's be honest -- you've bought/built a lot of guns in the past and you won't magically stop buying any down the road. So what if you spend a few extra (or a few less) dollars on this scope. Get the one the works for your needs and move on.

Get the right scope, not a compromise.
 
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The primary functions of the scope should rule the purchase decision -- magnification, optics clarity, reticle, adjustments (turrets), ability to hold zero.

Plus or minus a few ounces of weight shouldn't matter much in the overall scheme of a rifle. This assumes you're not humping the rifle for hours a day, for days on end, up and down steep hills, with lots of gear on your back, in difficult weather. This ain't you. A handful of extra ounces should not make or break what may be the best scope on your list.

We all have budgets, but let's be honest -- you've bought/built a lot of guns in the past and you won't magically stop buying any down the road. So what if you spend a few extra (or a few less) dollars on this scope. Get the one the works for your needs and move on.

Get the right scope, not a compromise.



Amen.

Another vote for the kahles k16i. It is the king of the hill in th 1-6 category.


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Kahles K16i is 16.9 oz, but likely blows your budget.

I love mine. Great illum and clarity



+1. It is stunning how good this scope is. Beyond the above, the eye box has to be experienced to be believed....
 
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I have looked through the Kahles. It is exceptional. I don’t think it is enough better than the Razor to justify the cost. Unless weight is a BIG factor.

I have looked through most of the 1-6 optics discussed in this thread. I vote Razor, but I think you would be satisfied with the 1-5 Steiner at a lower price point and lower weight.
 
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Yeah I’m not humping a rifle around for a living or anything it’s basically for fun. I just have a cervicsl and thoracic issue that can show at any time. Weight Is always a factor unless I’m on the Bench. I mean if WW 4 ever broke out I think I could make it work though.

The VX5 would also be a decent choice if they had a better reticle selection.


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Primary Arms 1-6X24mm FFP Rifle Scope, weight is 17.6 oz with capped turrets. https://www.primaryarms.com/pa...or-556-reticle-black
 
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I have looked through the Kahles. It is exceptional. I don’t think it is enough better than the Razor to justify the cost. Unless weight is a BIG factor.

I have looked through most of the 1-6 optics discussed in this thread. I vote Razor, but I think you would be satisfied with the 1-5 Steiner at a lower price point and lower weight.


Dang IB, what’s the eye relief on the vortex? That’s almost a scout mount. Do you get up on it prone? Is it that forgiving?


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