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| Ermagherd, 10 Mirrimerter!  |
I never would pull the trigger when these were cheap(er). I passed on a well used black one for $1800 several years ago. This one was more than that, but not a bunch more Right color, barely used I had a spare aimpoint PRO for now, have to decide what glass to go with. 1-6x vortex pst maybe , have one on my main AR. Could swap them out I guess Weather is warm Sunday, we shall see ! Any must have accessories or add-ons ? I’m new to this platform.   I quit school in elementary because of recess.......too many games --Riff Raff-- | ||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
17? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Put a suppressor on it. That muzzle brake is brutal and you won't make any friends at the range.  ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Ermagherd, 10 Mirrimerter! |
Oops , yes 17S I quit school in elementary because of recess.......too many games --Riff Raff-- | |||
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| Ermagherd, 10 Mirrimerter! |
Lol, I have an AR that was set up for 3 gun, some crazy AK style brake We call it the lane clearer, have to shoot it with plugs and muffs. With the gas system adjusted and the low mass bolt and heavy buffer it’s like shooting a 22, just REALLY loud, no muzzle flip… pew pew pepewpew I quit school in elementary because of recess.......too many games --Riff Raff-- | |||
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what are you trying to do with it? That matters a lot in advising. I'm a SCAR addict, I sought help but it didn't help. Things that matter to me are... some sort of optical sight. If your actually running the gun at ranges its capable of I like an LPVO of 10x. I use the nightforce ones but there are many choices. SCAR's are tough on optics make sure what you pick is proven to survive. upgrade the trigger to the geissle. Yup not cheap but you do want it. save your pennies if needed. Something different on the muzzle. I run suppressed with a surefire but if you don't then just get a decent FH and be happy. Some gas jets for tuning. Get the PMM ones as the stock ones are hard to remove after use. I like and use the PMM sling mounts I like and use the PMM modified MOE grip I like and use the PMM rail elimination panel on one side and the mloc on the other. But other than the optic and the trigger I would be mostly happy 'as is'. Once you say your goals I can revise. I have lots of these in various states of trying stuff... “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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| Ermagherd, 10 Mirrimerter! |
I don’t do anything competitive or long range I’d say basic HD , SHTF reliable setup 10x on the lpvo sounds good , didn’t realize they were available , last one I bought 6x was state of the art I did see an Eotech Vudu recently that piqued my interest Any opinion on that one? I’ve good luck with multiple vortex pst on 1-4 and 1-6x Might as well take advantage of the ballistics here. But my son probably still outshoots me at 600m with a crappy USMC issued 4x ACOG, they are supposed to be getting 1-6x acogs eventually , he’ll really be deadly then. I’ll check out the PMM stuff Trigger is kind of HK like lol I run geissele on ARs already , is it a home gunsmith job on the SCAR? I guess long range SHTF duty is what I’d call it , nothing that takes away from reliability. It will probably get sighted in , with new optics and sling set up , then shot a couple times a year to check zero . I quit school in elementary because of recess.......too many games --Riff Raff-- | |||
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Get on the fifty! |
The Geissele super scar trigger is a must have "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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yes. nothing on the SCAR is harder than an AR IMO including the trigger. Changing the barrel needs a torque wrench and the gas screws a modified screw driver (just get the PMM tool) and thats the end of special tools. no experience on EOTECH optics. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Why, yes, it is.  | |||
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| Ermagherd, 10 Mirrimerter! |
Damn it man, I didn’t really want to retire early anyway! I’ll probably spend more on the glass and trigger than I did the gun, but that’s true way it always goes. I avoided the FN game , and just lightly brushed up against the HKs for years. It was a good run while it lasted. I quit school in elementary because of recess.......too many games --Riff Raff-- | |||
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TA11F Acog with the 308 reticle is a good setup on the 17s. I've used mine on steel out to 700 ish yards with old surplus SA ball ammo. It took 5 rounds to sight it in at 100. The reticle stadia marks were real close and the hold was close to right on at 700. I played around with extended rails and extras, but went back to a shorter rail with VFG to keep it light and handy. Good score and enjoy! | |||
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| What is the soup du jour? |
The PWS muzzle break works well, but I dislike it more than my vocabulary will allow. Sure it tames recoil, but I’d much prefer more recoil to that teeth rattling monstrosity. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
The AAC Blackout may not be available anymore.  | |||
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Don't, actually. Suppressors and SCAR's don't mix, per my buddy who works for FN (and apparently any warranty is voided). Also, they kill optics with the recoil impulse (specifically the 17S). | |||
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I didn't want to raise the issue in the thread, but it is true that FN voids the warranty on your SCAR if they find any tool marks on the original muzzle device or jam nut. For how much these guns and parts cost, it is a ridiculous position for a manufacturer to take. Especially because they do sell their own warrantied SCAR suppressors and adaptors for the LE/Mil market (but not to the US consumer). The scar also has a multi-setting gas system, so suppressor use with some factor of back pressure was a design parameter. If OP is considering adding an aftermarket muzzle device, he'll have to make sure it either indexes on the muzzle surface or use a PMM type shoulder ring. Surefire muzzle devices come with the correct ring in the package. The SF3P is a good option for just a flash hider if he goes that way. | |||
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Nice! It’s hard to find them at a decent price. I passed on one in 2020 with all the good aftermarket parts at a good price due to a tragic cerakote job, I was picking up a SAR-48 at the time and didn’t want to swing both. | |||
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When it comes to this rifle, or any contemporary rifle, I think things like a silencer voiding the warranty and "tragic" cerakote jobs are deal-breakers in the context of collection of modern military firearms; not in the context of use of said firearm. If the buyer's motivation was the addition of a fine example of a contemporary military firearm to his collection of similar items, with the occasional range trip in mind, then I would expect him to abide by FN's warranty parameters, and avoid guns that had been painted or modified, regardless of a significant price cut. If the buyer's intent is to use the gun as "fighting rifle" in a the modern preparedness 2A context (and he appreciates the application of a silencer), then I wouldn't think he'd be worried about warranty parameters that prohibit the use of such a prolific and beneficial item. He'd also not likely care about a paint job, on an otherwise good-condition firearm, if the price is right. | |||
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| Get on the fifty! |
Why have a suppressor setting on the gas block then? Why do they talk about suppressing in the military manuals? I've had suppressors on my 16 and 17 for thousands of rounds and haven't had a single issue. People suppress them all the time. I know they void the warranty (which is bs on FN's part) but to say they don't mix is silly. Buddy sounds full of it. "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Because the military doesn't care about warranties, and damaged optics are replaced by an armorer. The Aimpoint RDS is rugged enough to take the Gs created by firing the 17, as are Elcan optics and the Trijicon ACOG stuff. | |||
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