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Which would you go for?

A friend of mine has a couple of Tavors and an AUG, I asked him which he prefers, and he said the Tavor.

I have owned both in the past but prefer the Tavor myself. I had x2 of the SAR and never got to try the 95 but it sounds like an improvement. Either way, you can't go wrong.

Own both and still prefer the AUG. Must be the die hard in me...LOL

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
The X95 is a fine gun, but when it comes to "feel," it's the AUG.
It's one of those things where, despite all the kvetching, we all know it's right. Like the Mp5.
Oh, those Austrians.

100%. I haven't let anyone hold or shoot mine that didn't immediately get a look on their face that said "damn". (in a good way)

Thread Revive...

Just found out that Steyr now sells NATO stocks with bolt release!

https://steyr-arms.us/shop/aug...k-with-bolt-release/

$360 and needs a NATO trigger pack to use.



Not that I'm buying soon, but I've just lost all desire for a Tavor.

Where are you seeing that?

The detail on their site sucks.

https://steyr-arms.us/shop/aug-stocks/

The Tavor is objectively superior in features. I still like the AUG better. It's just cooler.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
No, but I love their 10/22 stock. Since we're talking AUG.. I'll just put this here:

OooooooOOOOOOoooo....

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Where are you seeing that?

The detail on their site sucks.

https://steyr-arms.us/shop/aug-stocks/

I don't want to go Captain Obvious, but I left the link to their website in my post.

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Originally posted by DanH:

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Where are you seeing that?

The detail on their site sucks.

https://steyr-arms.us/shop/aug-stocks/

I don't want to go Captain Obvious, but I left the link to their website in my post.

Hahahaha! Well SHIT. That was my derp moment of the week.

About $500 for the stock plus the required trigger pack. I may do that later. I already have the NATO stock without the bolt release and a standard stock.

Having owned both, the AUG is WAY better engineered and designed than the TAVOR any day of the week.

Better ergonomics, QD barrel, tool less field stripping...lighter weight..

The Tavor in comparison looks like it's designed by a bunch of high school drop outs, excessive parts count, over complicated assembly and way too many nuts and bolts and screws(of various sizes, requiring different tools). If you think a single firearm platform should simultaneously use Philips, slotted, and hex key screws to hold it together, well I guess the Tavor is for you.

It's as if they couldn't figure out a way to mount various parts and components in place so the solution is to just screw everything on, oh but they can get loose or lost? worry not just locktite everything so when you DO need to remove it, they'll just end up getting stripped.

Oh, and removing the barrel will also require a special "key", which it does not come with. You can buy it separately, if you're lucky enough to find one in stock.

It's a cool looking rifle no doubt but there's just too much design/engineering boo boos on it to make it viable as a "go to" weapon. This is especially inexcusable consider that the AUG came decades before it and yet it isn't half the gun that the AUG is.

And yes the above applies to both the original Tavor (now already discontinued because it's so bad), and it's successor, the X95. They have just about zero parts interchangeability and the differences are so great they are in reality completely different platforms altogether.

AUG=Serious tool Tavor (all variants)= range toy.

Thanks for the heads up on the availability of the nato stock package! I ordered the mud color. This will make my AUG my favorite rifle, aside from my M4orgery.

To Z06, and anyone else who has/had the Cold War era imports (Austrian 90x series), can you tell a build, function, or overall quality difference between the originals and the current production units? Triggers, charging handle operation, furniture…do the 21st century models have any felt differences compared to the originals?

Although it's got the same balance differences that other bullpups have, I'm very pleased with my X95 in .300 BLK. It's short, versatile, reliable, and with Geissele Super Sabra trigger pack and trigger bow, it's extremely user friendly. I'm not sure what kind (if any) of trigger upgrades the AUG has available, in my view these really set the X95 apart. I just wish they came with them.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
I How about a "Hellion?"

My one and only experience with a Hellion was at a local shoot that I hosted, and a buddy brought his.


I was astonished at how smoothly it shot. Incredibly mild. Trigger was decent.

We didn't put nearly enough rounds through it that day for me to make any comments regarding reliability. But I was impressed.