Does anyone here do rimfire benchrest shooting? I've been playing with it and I think I'm at the limit of my rifle's capabilities. Or my ammo.
I shoot a Ruger K10/22 Target, shooting some older CCI SV ammo that's been very consistent for me. I picked up some Eley Target ammo to try out, and hopefully it'll help get rid of the fliers. If not, I'll try some higher grade Eley or some SK.
My last target was (I think) 206 - 7X at 50 yards.
I'll add a photo or two tomorrow.

thought of it a few times,

never did,

never thought of using a 10/22 either,

one of the local ranges had matches, was one that was reported in the old Precision Shooting mags,

what class are you trying to shoot in?

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
what class are you trying to shoot in?

I'm just getting started, so I'm not sure where I'd fit in. Shooting a factory 10/22 would hinder me in the Unlimited classes but I'm not really familiar with the class system anyway.
I just try to put as many in the X ring out of my 25 shots as I can.

Well you really need to understand the rules of the class you want to participate in if you are shooting officially. But in my area the factory class is dominated by the CZ variants. But any Tikka or B14 would be as good. As you probably already know .22 ammo is a gun/ammo testing project.

My plan is to buy a CZ 457 MTR if I keep going. The 10/22 I have is amazing, but it has it's limitations.

Yep, I shoot benchrest...PSL & ARA. A couple threads that may be of interest.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...935/m/4070042615/p/1

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...935/m/3560077615/p/1

Good luck but most importantly, have fun.

Been shooting informally with some guys online matches. We do it for fun. But we have some competitive matches. Most of the guns are under 3K maybe a tick over that with scopes. We have everything from Bergaras to Vudoo, Rem. 40X and Winch. 52s. I shoot a CZ457 with Lilja barrel in the open category and do very well with it. My 52D is in the open/peep sight group and is very competitive also. But just remember high quality ammo is a vital part of the game. Lapua, Eley and RWS in the $22/box range. I love shooting .22s!

My CZ457/Lilja/Zeiss 6 X 36 scope and 100 yd 5 shot group shot with the above.

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Originally posted by Todd Huffman:
My plan is to buy a CZ 457 MTR if I keep going. The 10/22 I have is amazing, but it has it's limitations.

Great gun. I could not get comfortable over the stock, though, so mine looks more like got2hav1's. Not much CZ left on it at this point. Maybe the action block and bolt. Probably going to drop another trigger in this year. Current Timney is at 8 ozs. and is fine but I want to try it with a 2-3 oz just for kicks.





And to got2hav1...great shooting as usual.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
As you probably already know .22 ammo is a gun/ammo testing project.

Ain't that the truth. First, you find the brand it likes. Then you lot test it and find what lot number it likes. Then you buy a crap ton of it so you don't run out. And when you do run out, you start the process all over again.

I have this one inbound! CZ457 with Shilen barrel, Timney trigger and MDT ACC chassis. This gun was built by Desert Precision Gunworks. It should be a real hammer, we'll have to see how it turns out. Should have it by the end of this week. Further down the rabbit hole

Oh, man. Just what I need to see: a post about Desert Precision. Next you’ll be torturing us with pictures of tiny groups. Will the abuse never end?



Every time I see one of his videos I must keep telling myself: “Do not need. Do not need! Do NOT need!!!

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Oh, man. Just what I need to see: a post about Desert Precision. Next you’ll be torturing us with pictures of tiny groups. Will the abuse never end?



Every time I see one of his videos I must keep telling myself: “Do not need. Do not need! Do NOT need!!!

Need! What's that? This is all about WANT !!

What was the lead time for the DP?
Asking for a friend.

(The way Commirado is going, I would not be the least surprised to see 22 Long Rifle bolt actions on the next hit list.)

Sig, I am not sure. I am third owner so I didn't order it. The second owner, who sold it to me, developed some serious health problems. Unable to shoot now. I think the lead times are pretty long right now, if he's taking orders at all. Don't know if you follow Joe Rhea but check out his Rim-x built by DPG!!!

https://youtu.be/7vZnw10qz_g?si=FpfW1qQfz2F_wnfL

Yes, I’m familiar with Cyclops; he is an … interesting character, but does have some good stuff at times.

I wonder about the future of top tier 22LR rifles. Interest in them has obviously exploded which is no doubt why someone like DPG might be so far behind with orders that he might not even be taking more at present. Then there was the move by Voodoo, if that’s all it was—?

I shoot a lot of 22LR in various drills and my Tikka* and SK Standard Plus ammunition are good enough considering the targets and my skill level. I mostly doubt that I’d do significantly better with a more precise combination which is why I’ve managed to avoid succumbing to an upgrade temptation that would leave my other 22s gathering dust. I still wonder, though, if another company is going to appear out of the weeds to challenge the other top manufacturers and fill the availability gaps.

* I do have an EC tuner now and it may have improved precision slightly, but I believe that adding 36 ounces of forend weights has definitely been an accuracy benefit.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Yes, I’m familiar with Cyclops; he is an … interesting character, but does have some good stuff at times.

I wonder about the future of top tier 22LR rifles. Interest in them has obviously exploded which is no doubt why someone like DPG might be so far behind with orders that he might not even be taking more at present. Then there was the move by Voodoo, if that’s all it was—?

I shoot a lot of 22LR in various drills and my Tikka* and SK Standard Plus ammunition are good enough considering the targets and my skill level. I mostly doubt that I’d do significantly better with a more precise combination which is why I’ve managed to avoid succumbing to an upgrade temptation that would leave my other 22s gathering dust. I still wonder, though, if another company is going to appear out of the weeds to challenge the other top manufacturers and fill the availability gaps.

* I do have an EC tuner now and it may have improved precision slightly, but I believe that adding 36 ounces of forend weights has definitely been an accuracy benefit.

I think there's something to be said for the man who shoots one rifle and knows it well. I can't resist the next hottest thing !!

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Originally posted by got2hav1:
...and MDT ACC chassis...

Ha...Congratulations! Great minds think alike. Just bought this a couple weeks back, in charcoal green, for my next build. Haven't decided on the rest of it yet (other than a 457 base) but, I know I wanted this chassis.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I wonder about the future of top tier 22LR rifles. Interest in them has obviously exploded which is no doubt why someone like DPG might be so far behind with orders that he might not even be taking more at present. Then there was the move by Voodoo, if that’s all it was—?
I still wonder, though, if another company is going to appear out of the weeds to challenge the other top manufacturers and fill the availability gaps.

In periods of high demand, new suppliers will step in. The new suppliers might drive innovation, higher performance, lower costs, improved ergonomics, or possibly other features -- depending upon the market niche they wish to address. My recently-delivered 40X repeater build from Modacam Rifles (SF's jelrod1) took some time, due to his customer backlog. A number of the really talented 'smiths have backlogs so great that they put new builds on hold -- or sometimes with a note of "you're on my list for next year, or the year after, I'll contact you when you can send me your gun/components".

Nevertheless, uber-accuracy from a 22lr is highly ammo dependent. And not just brand/line dependent, but manufacturing lot number dependent. This is why Lapua offers testing of one's barreled action, from a vise system, across multiple lots. It's my understanding that once a right combo is found, some shooters buy 10k to 20k rounds of the given lot #, knowing that they will only shoot that lot # with that barrel, then retire the barrel when the ammo supply has been consumed.

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Originally posted by got2hav1:
I think there's something to be said for the man who shoots one rifle and knows it well.

This is more or less true with PRS-type shooting, where the shooter -- not fixed mechanical rifle supports -- is the primary factor in accuracy & scoring. Now the accomplished PRS-type shooters will almost certainly have a number of rifles. Different calibers for various events, especially those with longer target distances. If they're really competing frequently, they'll probably have exact duplicates of certain rifles, in case one goes down. Training rifles are common, plus different rifles for competition. But it is highly likely that almost every rifle will be set up similarly to all the others. Chassis, magazine family, action, bolt throw, optics, sling, bipod/tripod & mounts, trigger, dope system. It's not that the best shooters don't strive for innovation & improvement, rather that they evaluate equipment changes carefully.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Oh, man. Just what I need to see: a post about Desert Precision. Next you’ll be torturing us with pictures of tiny groups. Will the abuse never end?



Every time I see one of his videos I must keep telling myself: “Do not need. Do not need! Do NOT need!!!

Ok, two fronts-
1) Being an enabler…
It’s just a .22!!! A little .22!!! They’re just a couple hundred bucks! We’re not talking about a $5k rifle with $7k worth of glass on top!
Ruger 10/77, CZ, a Tikka… hell, not going to get into the “Anschutz” category. (Yeah, stay away from those)

https://www.anschutznorthameri.../factory-rifles.html

2) being a shooter…
I went back to shooting .22 a few years ago. I looked in the safe, saw my Ruger 10/22 and couldn’t remember the last time I shot it. Dragged that and the Ruger MK-2 out to the farm, had an old brick of .22lr.

TALK ABOUT A FUN TIME!

Then I started pushing myself. A slight reality check, as I was starting to miss more than I wanted to. Slowed down and focused, I started getting quarter sized groups, a little practice, it dropped down to a nickel size. $20 worth of ammo and you’re in for a full day of fun!
25 - 50 yds for me and I have a smile on my face.
I have a few friends (snipers on CPD SWAT) who are playing at 100 yds+, and same thing- huge smile on their faces, and for $20 or so. As FRITZ said, it’s REALLY ammo dependent!
A brick of ammo, same manufacturer, same lot, and you’re going to have variance.

Then there’s the precision side of the house.
Another expensive rabbit hole to go down! That’s where you’re looking at a $3K gun, then the glass, if you want.

Outside of being behind a .22, ya really can’t have that much fun for $20.
(There’s another place, but it’s on the west side of Chicago, and it’s a 50/50 if it’s a guy or not, but I don’t recommend that)

How much is a piece of cardboard, some glue and a large container of Alkal-selzer?
Steel targets strictly for .22 is pretty cheap too.