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I would avoid the Geissele SSA-E. Too light of a pull. The SSA is as light as I would go for a fighting rifle.

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Originally posted by Cross:
The G2S is functionally identical to the SSA. The SSA-E is a whole other animal, being only visually similar to SSA. SSA-E has a much cleaner and lighter break than the SSA/G2S.

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Originally posted by Eaganite:
Bought my first AR-15 January this year from PSA. Had operational issues initially, but to PSA's credit they covered all shipping costs to return for warranty.After return has been working perfect.

Now I'm thinking of upgrading the trigger, and think I've narrowed it down to two options. First one being the LaRue Tactical MBT-2S two-stage, the other being PSA's custom Single-stage flat drop-in match grade - 116055 trigger. At $115 for the LaRue and $90 for the PSA price isn't the main consideration.

I have never used a two-stage before and am somewhat apprehensive to buy it, kind of seems like designed creep before release. Open to any advice and thoughts about this, thanks in advance.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
If this rifle is intended for anything other than scoped, precision shooting, I would avoid the Geissele SSA-E. Too light of a pull. The SSA is as light as I would go for a fighting rifle. Even at that, the SSA may be a bit too light for an over-adrenalized shooter. I do own both these triggers and use the SSA in my mainline ARs. I love the SSA and I cannot see myself ever replacing them. I have an SSA-E in one AR intended primarily for shooting from a bipod.

In terms of "creep" as you describe it, it's not what you think. It's just a bit of takeup and if you have need to pull the trigger quickly, you won't notice it at all. This takeup is not objectionable- unless, that is, you expect all AR triggers to be single-stage. If you've fired many rounds through an AR with a mil-spec trigger, a two-stage trigger just takes getting used to. The SSA is a refined pull, and if you're not aware, these Geissele triggers are in use with US Special Forces.

For single-stage triggers, look no further than ALG's QMS and ACT. The QMS is a refined version of the standard mil-spec AR trigger and the ACT is a refined version of the QMS

Both of these triggers beat mil-spec by a mile. The important thing is to have the hammer/sear engagement surfaces (and in the AR-15, this is a hammer/trigger interface) lubricated with a quality grease (I use SLIP2000's EWG).

Before I switched my primary rifles to the SSA/SSA-E, I used the QMS and ACT triggers and I can tell you that they are worth every penny of the asking price. In terms of mil-spec design AR triggers, both the QMS and the ACT- when properly lubed- have absolutely creepless releases. This is no exaggeration. Creep is undetectable, a really beautiful pull. The difference between these two triggers is that the ACT averages a bit lighter pull than the QMS. An unlubed or inadequately lubed QMS trigger can display a bit of creep if pressure is applied slowly. Other than that, once you try these triggers, you're spoiled for any other manufacturer's mil-spec offerings.

In terms of mil-spec-type triggers, the ACT is a thing of beauty. If you like a single-stage pull, you'll love the ACT. I still have rifles with both QMS and ACT triggers but these are not rifles I consider to be primary for me. For my mainline rifles, the SSA is king.

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Originally posted by CEShooter:
Eaganite - I'm assuming that I know what town your in, but if you are interested, I can meet up with you after the first of the year and I have a lowers with a LaRue trigger, a Timney trigger, and a JP Enterprises trigger that you can try out on your upper and see if any of them seems like something that you have to have.

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Originally posted by powermad:

I use Centurion Arms AST triggers in mine.
Made by Schmid, several others sell it as well for the same price.
https://centurionarms.com/trig...ast-2-stage-trigger/

Thanks for the link, the price point is good. I don't want to put an expensive high end trigger on a budget gun I paid $600 for.
Hoping someone here has had an experience with the PSA trigger I mentioned.

Thanks for the all your responses, it is appreciated.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Thanks for that review, Para. Your endorsement of the ALG options was what I was thinking of.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
That's probably going to be something with the disconnector where it contacts the hook on the hammer. Wipe off and lubricate those two surfaces.

Starting at 1:04 in this video. Trigger reset shown at the 1:10 mark.

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Also, check to see if the disconnector spring is seated properly.

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… LaRue is an indirect example of this. The MBT-2S came out for $250 and folks were singing praises about it, saying that the increased cost over a Geissele SSA-E was well worth it for the crispier break, better reset, and better construction. When the price dropped to $87 folks started saying that "it's 90% of the SSA-E for 33% of the cost".

Price plays a major factor in how folks perceive the quality of ARs and AR accessories.

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Originally posted by Eaganite:
Now I don't claim to have any knowledge of this but....... Is it possible that with the price reduction came a design change?
Edit: Response to mark123 LaRue post.