So I spent the last week or so teaching my daughter to shoot using suppressed .22s (Ruger 77/22, 10/22, Mark III and Mark I)

So today I went to the range for me and I’ll be honest I don’t get my .30 calibers out much.

Anyhoo I packed up the PTR91 HK91 Clone today as I haven’t had it out in some time. Wow that HK collapseable stock is a meat grinder. It shot really well and I loved it but I cannot imagine lugging an old school .30 caliber rifle and it’s mags and ammo into combat. I love the thing but damn she’s a beast, especially coming off of suppressed .22s.

Good shooting rifle though. I will however take an AR or AK if the world ends, and only to keep my supply of whiskey topped off in the wasteland. I will sport a Mohawk but draw the line at Assless chaps.

I did make some fantastic schnitzel cutlets later pounding out the chicken with that stock.

40 rounds of steel cased at 50 yards iron sights.
I know this isn’t impressive to most but my eyes suck and I haven’t had the old girl out for years. Well that and she tried to turn my glasses into contact lenses a couple times I was thinking suppressed 10/22.

Now you know why the A3 stocks on G3/HK91s are called "meat tenderizers."

G3/HK91s are generally deadly from two directions: the muzzle and the ejection port, but add an A3 stock and the only safe place to be around one is on the left side of the receiver.

For a real introduction to the infamous HK Blue Shoulder, you need to do a 20 round magazine dump on an HK G3A3 on full auto. After the initial numbness wears off, the delicious throbbing pain will make its appearance.

Lol yeah, there’s basically no comfortable way to shoot one with one of those stocks on there. I went to the range with a friend one time and took mine. I had him shoot a mag through it with the A3 stock first, warned him about the meat tenderizer before I swapped them out. He fired exactly one round with the collapsing stock, safed it, and set it in the bench. He had enough right there. I guess not only the stock rail got him but the rear of the receiver popped him right in the cheek also. “Yeah, that can happen.”

They look pretty cool, they do shorten the overal length to something you might be able to get into and out of a vehicle easily enough, but they are not fun to shoot, lol.

They are big pimping in he video games, but real life - not so much.

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Originally posted by MG34_Dan:
For a real introduction to the infamous HK Blue Shoulder, you need to do a 20 round magazine dump on an HK G3A3 on full auto. After the initial numbness wears off, the delicious throbbing pain will make its appearance.

I’ve done that with the shorty HK51. It’s like cracking open the gates of Hell for a few seconds. And some serious muzzle climb if you aren’t ready.

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Originally posted by MG34_Dan:
For a real introduction to the infamous HK Blue Shoulder, you need to do a 20 round magazine dump on an HK G3A3 on full auto. After the initial numbness wears off, the delicious throbbing pain will make its appearance.

I have gotten to do that with a buddy's brother-in-laws friends HK G3A3 a couple of times.

You lay into it, pull the trigger and the world goes all "gray and fuzzy"! At first it's like "Damn!" Then it's like "Daaammnn!!". LoL....

I would love to have a real HK G3, but I have fun with my Centry Arms CETME C308. It's been reliable, accurate and with the regular stock, I don't think recoil is to bad.

I know that you are in danger in front of the muzzle and at the ejection port. That thing slings empty brass into the next State!

But for serious work, I would pick an AR 15.


ARman

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Originally posted by LDD:
Now you know why the A3 stocks on G3/HK91s are called "meat tenderizers."

G3/HK91s are generally deadly from two directions: the muzzle and the ejection port, but add an A3 stock and the only safe place to be around one is on the left side of the receiver.

No truer words ever been said about them G3A3's. They are cool looking through!

ARman

I like my Greek variant (SAR-8); the G3/91 is my favorite full house battle rifle, and currently the only 7.62X51 semi I own. I have the A3 as well as the standard full length stocks. The only time I have ever disliked shooting with the A3 was in a t-shirt.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I will however take an AR or AK if the world ends, and only to keep my supply of whiskey topped off in the wasteland. I will sport a Mohawk but draw the line at Assless chaps.

Assless pants. There is no such thing as "Assless Chaps." If you're wearing nothing but chaps, you're still just wearing chaps. Even the Wasteland has rules.

try this buffer conversion, it works as advertised better than the standard to be sure. worth the $45 without a doubt.
http://triggerwork.net/hk-91-a...d-recoil-buffer.html

I have gone full rock and roll with an HK51 as well but not with an A3 stock. Unleashing hell is an apt description. Situational awareness is “ever so slightly ” dulled at full chatter. Fun though.

I stand corrected on the assless chaps. I will try to follow the rules and etiquette of the post apocalyptic wasteland and I wouldn’t want to make faux pas such as above. I thank you sir. Chaps with leather pants it is.

Where does the Choate aftermarket sidefolder for G3 style rifles fall as far as recoil "amplification" goes? I have a lead on one locally but would like an idea of what I might be getting into. Thanks.

I've owned an HK91 with all the trimmings for as long as you could get them for cheap back in the 90s. I've never outwardly exuded unquenchable joy at the thought of dragging that beast to the range, but hey, they were all we had back then for the 'Ferrari' of battle rifles. But she is a heavy girl, if'n you're into heavy girls, 'n' stuff.

She kicks like the Rancor on Tatooni, but with a bad attitude, and like she has to take a piss but can't get her britches down.

She's kinda' the girl you tell your friends you have 'hit that', but secretly feel that you don't ever want to do it again.

Then once, I left the barn door open and a SCAR17s walked in during the night. Now the HK91 never gets rode.

H&K-Guy

The SCAR17 is a WHOLE nother game. Awesome rifle but you are looking at over 50 years of engineering and materials difference. Think about that. A half a century later.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
The SCAR17 is a WHOLE nother game. Awesome rifle but you are looking at over 50 years of engineering and materials difference. Think about that. A half a century later.

That's the only reason the old girl still has a dedicated stall in the stable. Really, everyone should have at least one HK91.

H&K-Guy

Nope, not doing it. My bro had one of those stocks on his SAR-8. Did not enjoy. Not quite as bad as Dad’s Marlin 45-70 with 300 g +p, but similar.

I prefer my M1A Supermatch for semi .308. 15 pounds soaks up the recoil.

But seriously, if you want to see how well Swiss engineering handles 7.62 NATO/308 Winchester recoil, you need to try a SIG AMT. Its lack of recoil is amazing. Plus, it is very accurate.

Yep Dan that's for sure it's like a pussycat.The bolt/carrier and the recoil spring make the HK look like a toy!! I just bought mine back from my buddy after 7 years in his stable, glad she's back......