I've mentioned it here and there, but when the news came out about the $0 tax, this was one of the first things that came to mind. Picked this candidate up at a shop for $150 last fall, complete with some surface rust, some cracks in the stock and fore end, and a bad ding in the barrel about four inches from the muzzle. Perfect!

Stamp took 44 days. Just picked up the receiver from being engraved. My machinist friend chopped the barrel for me and chamfered the muzzle in his Bridgeport. He chuckled about the barrel being both out of round, and varying wall thickness. I pointed out that in 1921, the Ilion plant was using steam engines and leather belts driving their machinery. He paused, considering, and offered "then it looks pretty goddamned good, considering."




Next up!


And then!


Not sure if I'll do the kerosene method, or boil and card, or both, or what, but I'll be doing one of Mark Novak's methods on this.

I'm also going to need to do something for a front sight. The original is on a retained 1.5" section of barrel with a riser of some sort. May have a gunsmith swap it over, or I may see about heating it and removing it and trying it myself. Or, I might put a micrometer on it, and email these guys and see how tall this bead sight is. If it's close, I might just install one of these:
https://defendertactical.com/products/highball

I've been wanting one of these for a long time now. Got an 870 papered and engraved alongside this one, and I'm not even interested in that one, but this gun has me excited.

It's not period correct, but if I end up taking this thing out a lot, I might track down and install a later two piece A5 lifter just for ease of use.

That is absolutely cool! I'd love to know how it shoots.

That is really neat - congratulations on this fun project turning out well!

For consideration regarding sights…if the Battlefield 1 mix of old and new tech is up your alley, perhaps add a rail or optic mount so a red dot optic could be used.

Charles Askins would have approved. (He used something like this in his Border Patrol days, with what he called a "duckbill spreader" attachment for horizontal dispersion.)

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That is absolutely cool! I'd love to know how it shoots.

So would I, but for a different reason. Did it function before? I know it wouldn't have been a good idea to shoot it in its "before" state with a dented barrel or cracked stock, but I wouldn't want to do all that work and then have it be a single-shot.

Oh, it works great. I put a box of low brass through it a couple of months ago and it ran without a hiccup. The stock isn’t cracked in a way that it would come apart catastrophically if it let loose and the barrel ding looks very old and I was pretty confident it had been shot that way, so I went for it. I figure I’ve done riskier things.

Anyways, I am frankly more concerned about the cracks in the fore end from a functional standpoint. The gun relies on the integrity of the handguard to keep cycling correctly, and when I got it, it was missing the friction collar, so it had been shot with the braking system disabled for who knows how long and how many rounds. I sourced one and installed it set up for heavy loads and it cycled those 8 1/2’s just fine. The hammer spring feels pretty anemic, so between those two things, I’m thinking the gun would benefit from being fully resprung.

Nice!

I think the Model 11 was a favorite of Clyde Barrow.

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I think the Model 11 was a favorite of Clyde Barrow.

Yep. On at least one they cut down the stock, to allow it to be carried concealed beneath a coat with the gun held along the body under the armpit. Called it a "whippet gun".

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(He used something like this in his Border Patrol days, with what he called a "duckbill spreader" attachment for horizontal dispersion.)

Duckbill chokes were also used by SEALs in Vietnam on their Ithaca 37s.





This video from Forgotten Weapons demonstrates a Remington Model 11 with a duckbill choke:

I've wanted a shotgun like this ever since I saw Outland with Sean Connery. It appears they used Browning 2000s for their props Outland Wiki but yours is close enough to trigger my WANT really bad.

Sigh.

ok, now you've got the gears in my head spinning. I'm thinking I need a sawed off 410.

That is a "cool" shotgun! The best I could do in my shitty state is a Remington TAC-14, then the shithead politicians outlawed the 14" barrels and I installed an 18.25" barrel to remain legal.
It isn't nearly as handy or fun now. Sadly, the extra 4.25" makes a world of difference.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do whatever is required for repairing/refinishing the wood butt stock and forend. Make it pretty as only wood can do.
But if you plan on using it very much, Ram-Line made an aftermarket black plastic butt stock and forend for the Browning A5.
I have a set on my A5. I'm a firm believer with "working shotguns" for storing the OEM wood butt stock and forend in the plastic blister pak the aftermarket plastic stuff arrived in.
I checked the manufacturer website, they still list that product, but it shows discontinued and zero quantity available.
It wouldn't hurt to try and track down a set even if it's on the secondary used market.

I saw the title and was all excited. I was looking forward to your Side By Side project

Of course when I re-read it, I realize you were saying Short Barreled Shotgun

One of my first NFA Title II firearms was a SxS (proper abbreviation) Coach Gun

This was another lucky project gun. One of my Uncle's friends had his Gun Shop broken in. Somehow a brand new "Bounty Hunter" 12 gauge fell into the hinge of the safe and the barrels were pinched flat. The insurance paid off on the gun and let him keep it. So he let me buy it VERY cheap. The making tax was my biggest expense of the project

So I cut the barrels back to the front of the forearm (~11"). Did a little cold blue and we have been playing with it ever since



I love the look of your autoloader and have been thinking of doing the same thing to an old Browning LT-12. I had this itch ever since Remington introduced their autoloader.

The only thing that has been stopping me is how finicky will it be with ammo. I have everything from 15 pellet OO-Buck to Less Lethal rubber Buck. How many different ammunitions have you tried? Were any of the various loads problematic in the autoloader?

The pumps, SxS's and O/Us do not much care about the ammo.

I want to add an autoloader to this SxS

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She looks way too happy about blasting whatever was in front of those double barrels.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Oh, it works great. I put a box of low brass through it a couple of months ago and it ran without a hiccup.

Was that after you cut the barrel? If not, it might need a different friction setup now. Absolutely badass gun.

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Originally posted by RichardC:
She looks way too happy about blasting whatever was in front of those double barrels.

That's a great pic!

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Originally posted by RichardC:
She looks way too happy about blasting whatever was in front of those double barrels.

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Originally posted by 1KPerDay:

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Originally posted by RichardC:
She looks way too happy about blasting whatever was in front of those double barrels.

That's a great pic!

We had milk jugs and 2 liter soda bottles filled with colored water

That was a fun day

I actually was doing some photos of the 3 day old foal



You will notice the proud MaMa keeping an eye on us from the other side of the gate

You got a smoking deal on that. It is just what everyone is looking for, something damage to the bits we want to cut of anyway! I’ve been hunting gunbroker recently for a 20 gauge version, those look a bit pricier, tho.

I’ll respond to some comments in a bit more depth later, but for now, I’ll say it absolutely functions just fine. I took it to an NFA night shoot afterparty kind of thing last night. Three folding tables covered with machine guns, SBR’s and suppressors and this was the gun that garnered the most excitement besides the MP5. Cycles great with 8’s and with 00 buck and slugs. Interestingly to me, it didn’t see to recoil any differently depending on what you fired through it. Zero malfunctions. Recoil was… stout. I thought for sure I’d be bruised today, but I’m not. I’m looking forward to the restoration!

Any changes to the recoil spring because of barrel mass loss?

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Any changes to the recoil spring because of barrel mass loss?

yeah probably a switch of the rings over to high-brass setting could help.