It appears to me that a lot of these states focus their restrictions on rifles with detachable magazines that don't look like hunting rifles.

I wonder why no one has developed a fully 'featured' rifle with a fixed magazine and an open top receiver like the Garand to accept clips.

It seems to me like this would be a much nicer solution than some of the silly accessories I have seen people being forced to buy.

i'm still trying to figure out those goofy ass grips on the rifle that you can't get your thumb behind. how are you supposed to hold it? damn things look dangerous to me.

Many older military bolt action rifles were designed to be loaded with stripper clips from the top of the receiver. Is that what you're referring to?

Lever action rifles could see some action, if bans take place at some point.

Probably because if Ruger (or anyone) were to do their version of the SKS it would cost close to 2 grand. They dont make em like they used to. I wonder how many SKSs there are in NY these days.

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Originally posted by nasig:
i'm still trying to figure out those goofy ass grips on the rifle that you can't get your thumb behind. how are you supposed to hold it?

Like you would a bolt action rifle...with your thumb over your trigger finger

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Originally posted by SigSentry:
Probably because if Ruger (or anyone) were to do their version of the SKS it would cost close to 2 grand.

...I wonder how many SKSs there are in NY these days.

In CA the SKS is the ultimate rule beater.

10 round magazine semi-automatic without a pistol grip and with a guide for stripper clips built into the bolt. Reliable and accurate...if you use good ammo

I believe that the stripper clip top loaded fixed mag AR is a variant made for CA. Or was, as newer illegal restrictive laws may have banned it.

Didn't CA require the registration of the SKS, and then confiscate them?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Many older military bolt action rifles were designed to be loaded with stripper clips from the top of the receiver. Is that what you're referring to?

I was referring to the Garand.

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Originally posted by SigSentry:
Probably because if Ruger (or anyone) were to do their version of the SKS it would cost close to 2 grand. They dont make em like they used to. I wonder how many SKSs there are in NY these days.

I was thinking more along the lines of a modified mini-14 that with a welded in mag fed with clips.

Welding the magazine is a bad idea.

But essentially, what you're talking about is an SKS. Or a VZ58 with a fixed magazine. It wouldn't be a Garand type thing you're looking at, because that would require some heavy modification with very few, if any, advantages over using chargers/strippers.

The California compliant assault rifle. Get one before CA decides 19th century tech is too deadly for civilian ownership.



Seriously, though, one of these in 357 would make a good home defense rig in one of the restrictive states. Ten shots of 38+p, easy to top off as you go.

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
Didn't CA require the registration of the SKS, and then confiscate them?

Nope. You might be referring to the SKS models that were converted to accept detachable 30rd mags

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Originally posted by airsoft guy:
But essentially, what you're talking about is an SKS. Or a VZ58 with a fixed magazine.

A fixed mag VZ58 would be a great rifle and the mod would be easy as it already comes with a stripper clip guide built in

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It wouldn't be a Garand type thing you're looking at, because that would require some heavy modification with very few, if any, advantages over using chargers/strippers.

Agree with this. Converting any rifle to use a Garand type clip wouldn't be worth what it would cost and wouldn't offer any advantage over a stripper clip fed rifle

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
The California compliant assault rifle. Get one before CA decides 19th century tech is too deadly for civilian ownership.



Seriously, though, one of these in 357 would make a good home defense rig in one of the restrictive states. Ten shots of 38+p, easy to top off as you go.

Be a great companion to the Chiappa Rhino .357 revolver. They both look like shit are unconventional looking .

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Originally posted by Scurvy:
I was referring to the Garand.

Sorry, thought you were referring to the loading system when you said this (which is what I was referring to):

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Originally posted by Scurvy:
a ... rifle with a fixed magazine and an open top receiver ....

Are you really thinking about a new rifle with proprietary en bloc clips?
I would be very hesitant myself to bet any serious money on the commercial success of such an endeavor.

But then you say this, which is essentially what I was referring to when I mentioned stripper clips, so now I’m truly confused.

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Originally posted by Scurvy:
I was thinking more along the lines of a modified mini-14 that with a welded in mag fed with clips.

(The above, BTW, is similar to what the M14 uses. Although its magazines are detachable, they can be loaded from the top using stripper clips while locked in the rifle. The stripper clip guide is that small projection at the rear of the ejection port. So, yes, I suspect that if the Mini 14 were modified to take stripper clips and the magazine were fixed, it would probably work.)

Time for breakfast.

There is a product out there that attaches to the ejection port of a standard AR15 that allows you to feed it with a proprietary mag charging devise.

An FN-49 fits the bill too, although are rather pricy these days, especially compared to an SKS. But similarly configured with a fixed 10 round magazine that loads through the top with stripper clips, along with a wood stock, no flash hider, etc.

I'm with some of the above. Lever in 357 Mag. Doesn't looks scary. Fits the criteria. 357 Mag rounds are screaming out of a 16" barrel.

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
I'm with some of the above. Lever in 357 Mag. Doesn't looks scary. Fits the criteria. 357 Mag rounds are screaming out of a 16" barrel.

Something to look at....357 Mag lever action.

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