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I absolutely recommend it. Everyone needs to try it at least once, and it's much more controllable than many other full-auto platforms I've shot. I'm very happy to have had the opportunity to play...I just don't need a semi-auto version in my safe. I'd want to try that Thompson too while you're paying for it ![]()
Yeah, that's a very odd choice for that application. I enjoy a nice PCC as much as anybody, but for a patrol rifle I want a rifle. | |||
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We've had one show up at 45Cal's place at one of the sig shoots. Here's the late great Vero8 with it. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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Maybe not on December 24th. An AR type PCC just ain't right on December 24th. ____________________ | |||
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Pictures from 2018. Dolf Goldsmith shooting and liking my MP5: ![]() ![]() ![]() “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – Barack Hussein Obama, January 23, 2009 | |||
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At a local range, you can rent an MP5 and/or a Kriss Vector. The range officer mentors the shooter one-on-one. Familiarity with controls, then shooting several semi auto singles, a couple 3 bursts, and then full auto. I like to watch from the behind right, because the first time MP5 full auto shooters always turn and grin like a possum eating ____________________ | |||
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Outstanding. I have about 7 of his books on various MGs. Excellent stuff. | |||
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Only 7? “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – Barack Hussein Obama, January 23, 2009 | |||
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Yep, but I think he only has 9, and one is an update/revision of an earlier one, while another is effectively a shop manual intended for machinegun builders/gunsmiths, so I basically have all of them. ![]() | |||
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I liked the MP5 I shot quite a bit. Very smooth, very low muzzle jump compared to the UMP 45 I also shot that trip. That was a choppah --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | |||
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Naturally. Rolled-delayed smaller caliber vs. straight blowback larger caliber. | |||
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Yall are calling it low muzzle jump and it is clearly pushing Vero8 up and he was a HUGE man. The only FA weapon I have ever shot with very little muzzle rise was a suppressed 9mm Mac 11. THe WORST muzzle rise I have ever shot was a non comped Tommy gun followed by a UMP40. Holy shit they wanted to rise. An M16 is manageable if you drop the sling and step on it. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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HERETIC!!! Burn him! Burn him for the blasphemy!!!
Huh. Maybe this guy is actually okay. Maybe we can all just get along, you know? BURN HIM ANYWAY!! ___________________________________________ Life Member NRA & Washington Arms Collectors Mistake not my current state of joshing gentle peevishness for the awesome and terrible majesty of the towering seas of ire that are themselves the milquetoast shallows fringing my vast oceans of wrath. Velocitas Incursio Vis - Gandhi | |||
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Lol. It's funny how a certain platform can just strike a chord with you while another won't. If you'd asked me before the other night if I thought I needed another shotgun, I'd have said absolutely not. I felt perfectly well equipped with my 870 for HD and my A300 Outlander for clays. But that 1301...man, what a shotgun! | |||
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I absolutely would not trade my LTT 1301 for a semi auto H&K MP 5 clone of any make or model. I might trade my eldest child, who is currently discussing with me his dream of being an F1 racer, for a full auto MP5 though. It depends on the day. ___________________________________________ Life Member NRA & Washington Arms Collectors Mistake not my current state of joshing gentle peevishness for the awesome and terrible majesty of the towering seas of ire that are themselves the milquetoast shallows fringing my vast oceans of wrath. Velocitas Incursio Vis - Gandhi | |||
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I agree with Marsy, when I got to shoot the MP5k he told me "Hey, let me push on your right shoulder to keep you straight, it will push you pretty hard". He wasn't kidding, full auto, even with 9mm, definitely throws back your supporting shoulder. Still fun as hell though, glad I got to do it, especially since it was unexpected. | |||
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The MP5K was our car-carry gun in Northern Ireland, along with the 20-round GP35 mags for our Browning pistols, and each of us would have one of each. Plus a spare beside the passenger foot well, with four mags. Traffic lights were the favourite interception points for the PIRA, until one fine day it all went tits-up for one bunch, and all three were shot dead where they stood. Luckily they were all crammed, very untactically, into a double doorway of a closed down eatery, so it wasn't too hard to distribute Her late Majesty's ammunition in a useful manner, without endangering any of her more lawful [and peaceful] citizens. Note that I was not involved with this event in any way. We went to look at the bodies later on that day, for positive ID-ing - and noted that from the waist up, mostly, they were patterned like leopards, with black 'rosettes' 'decorating' them up to the tops of their heads where our team had used the three-shot burst facility with great gusto and verve. One of them had fifty-two holes between his navel and eyebrows. | |||
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Not dumb if you understand the G3 rifle design that this was derived from... | |||
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'zackly. Seems like the Free world had TWO real choices at the time for a battle rifle - the FAL or the G3 - either did the job just fine. However, many countries who had no experience with the G3 went for the HK smg - we did for our SF and a few others who were not exactly SF, UK police, for instance, with SO19 and others with specific roles. The MoD police, tasked with guarding installations, had them. They were generally well-liked, too, not for the looks, which were 'challenging', but for the fact that nothing seemed to prevent them from working. I had a P9S until I had to hand it in, from 1977 to 1997, and although I shot it around two/three times a week with service 2Z ammo, it NEVER let me down. | |||
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I shot one of those at a rental range ~25 years ago. Until my ammo budget ran out, I was squeezing off 3-5-shot bursts and putting them in pretty much one large ragged hole. The closed-bolt operation makes it very controllable like that. | |||
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