Okay, I'm finally building out my third 300blackout.
This one as a 16" rifle. I'm wanting to use as much from my parts bin as I can, at least initially.
I am using a leftover FDE stock, tangodown stubby (maybe) and a Magpul FDE pistol grip (not on yet).
I found that I have quite a few scopes , red dot / reflex sights & iron sights.
I have only assembled handtight the barrel & handguard.
But I thought it'd be nice to tryout a few different configurations of sights & optics.
I have some FDE flip ups but they are an odd color that doesn't really match.
So I'd buy some BUIS if that's how I decide to go.
I'm looking to use it for 0-200yrds.
Targets, Hogs & Deer but it'll see more target shooting like most ARs.
Having the ability to grab it & use for personal defense is always in the back of my head.

I'm interested in anyone's insight to these configurations.
Pluses & Minuses, etc.
Which one you'd go with & why.
Your opinions are welcome.







Option #1
Micro Red Dot Sight & BUIS










Option #2
3X scope with a reflex sight on a 45° mount








Option #3
3X scope with 45° offset BUIS








Option #4
1-4x24 scope with a reflex sight on a 45° mount








Option #5
1-4x24 scope with 45° offset BUIS

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For me on game at 200y I want a scope and one with a bit of magnification.

I wish I had your problem.

I currently own more rifles than I do optics.

I think 100yrds is my max for game , realistically.
But I will be shooting paper out to 200yrds.
I know the .300blk starts to drop quite a bit beyond that & I'd like to keep the hold overs as simple as possible.
Plus I have bolt actions for longer shots.

Okay so maybe I'm just attempting to justify yet another AR !
Who hasn't done that !?!? LoL

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My vote is for #4. Scope for critters and targets, reflex for close in social work. With the longer barrel, you might be able to stretch that 200yds out a bit.

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Originally posted by entropy:
My vote is for #4. Scope for critters and targets, reflex for close in social work.

This is the setup I have for my LAR-8 hog/varmint rifle. I added the 45 reflex after getting surprised by 2 gray foxes. We were using mouth calls (rabbit) and they snuck in behind us while calling. It's hell trying to acquire anything in the scope that's moving fast at 40 feet.

On a reflex pulling this duty, what are we talking a 50yrd zero?

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Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
On a reflex pulling this duty, what are we talking a 50yrd zero?

I would imagine a 50yd zero with reflex sight would still be okay up to 100yds.

I don't think this is legal for deer in Ohi. Thought we were just straight wall and pistol cartridges?

I would run the 1-4, with either the offset reflex or the irons. That's a personal call as to what you are most comfortable with.

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Originally posted by wolfe 21:
I don't think this is legal for deer in Ohi. Thought we were just straight wall and pistol cartridges?

Correct, this would be for use in WV deer.



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quote:

Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
On a reflex pulling this duty, what are we talking a 50yrd zero?

I did my initial sighting in at around 20 yards. I pulled the BCG out of the rifle and lined up the bore with the center of the target X, then mucked with the cheap reflex until it was finally centered on the X. That got me close enough to make final adjustments at around 50 yards. The reflex was supposed to be a temporary experiment but I haven't removed it yet. Nor have I actually used it while hunting either.

For me, my scope is intended to be the primary sighting device. The reflex is only for reacting to wiley foxes at an uncomfortably close range. But it doesn't sound like we're using our rifles for the same thing so this setup might not work for you.

Your THIRD .300 blackout!?!?!

Damn son, send one to me here in the third world!!!

Seriously though, depends on the use of the rifle.

IMO, if you were gonna SBR, Supress, or preferably both, then Aimpoint micro all the way (or similar)

if not that, are you gonna hunt? What distance are you looking to engage targets? Is this a DMR (Designated Marksman type Rifle) where you are looking for accuracy, or are you going to "minute of man" type accuracy...

I'd either take the scope or the red dot/magnifier depending on the role.

If i were using it for 3 gun type I'd take magnified red dot all the way. Bench shooting at 300 plus yards the other.

Determine the use of the rifle, we can then help you pick the optics.

Nice gun for a bargain parts gun BTW.

Got it together yesterday afternoon.
Still not completely decided yet on the optics but I'm with most of you concerning the 1-4x24.

I am waiting on another set of keymod rail protectors , two additional keymod rail sections, a Seekins K20 AFG & a FDE keymod 45° mount to see if I'd like the Teflex mounted a little more forward and away from the scope.

But everything went together like butter.

Thanks. Now I'm starting to feel the itch gain. Hahaha.

Moved the Reflex forward & added some temporary BUIS.



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I like the 1-4 scope with the reflex offset. Where did you get the keymod rail covers from?

Ebay - Bravotac
They're BCM rail protectors

Thanks.

I'd just go with the 1-4. No buis, no 45 deg sights. The 1-4 can handle it all and you won't be fighting ISIS with it.

Snuck out before the snow (4"-7" expected) arrives to snap some BS pics.

I want to use the 1-4x24 scope as I like the 1x for its field of view & the 4x's added magnification but the little Nikon is so light & the reticle is so much nicer, I believe I'll be going with the 3X fixed magnification .
I'm not getting rid of the 1-4x24 scope anytime soon. There's a reason why it's still in my safe even though I have no need of it.
I really like that scope & the Vortex mount.
It may yet find a home on one of my other ARs.
It's not like my eyes are getting any younger.
My BUIS arrived as did my Ceramic Coating.
So I think, as pictured, it is as it will be except for the BUIS.







I went with a Seekins K20 AFG.
LoL, I bought all these rail sections just so I could use the FDE TangoDown Stubby VFG I have & still chose to buy the K20.
This fool & his money....







With one of my other 300blks
Once I get the last FDE part I'll get some pics of all three together.... no picture = didn't happen right?