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Originally posted by 92fstech:
What about competition involves grabbing the gun by the top of the front portion of the slide? Maybe I've been doing this wrong...

watch how Ernest Landgon chambers a pistol round and it kinda makes sense but Sig is definitely doing it for looks not competitive advantage

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Originally posted by PGT:

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
What about competition involves grabbing the gun by the top of the front portion of the slide? Maybe I've been doing this wrong...

watch how Ernest Landgon chambers a pistol round and it kinda makes sense but Sig is definitely doing it for looks not competitive advantage

1) With more red dots being used in competition and more shooters not wanting to bump/damage/change settings racking their slide off the red dot, they're adding more and more serrations to the front of the slide to get a better grip to clear malfunctions (either planned or unplanned) while losing little time. It's also why more and red dot only slides aren't coming with rear serrations because no one is using them if they have a red dot installed.

2) This is Max Michel's competition gun. He has final say on what goes on and what stays off. It was also on his previous P320 competition pistol.




Also found a video on the P211 that has me interested. I'll probably wait for the price to come down a little, but I'm also wondering if this will kill any steam that the OA Defense 2311 has.

Guess I'm just a bit too Neanderthal for all that. I just grab the slide over the top from the back like I've always done it, and if there's an optic there my hand goes over it. It's not my goal, but if the optic ends up serving as a charging handle as a result, so be it. If it fails under those conditions then it's not fit for service anyway.

Personally I'd rather work around or with the optic than be grabbing and manipulating the gun so close to where the bullets come out...but I'm no grand master, either.

You also wouldn't be using any of these guns for self defense. These are gamer guns with gamer gun shortcuts.

I'm more excited about the updated P226 X Carry Legion and what other variants Sig can do with the P211.

Am I the only one here who thinks it is sacrilege to call a 1911-derivative a Sig P21x? When I first saw this, I thought it had be a double stack P210. Boy, was I wrong.


Sig has been incredibly innovative the past decade or two, but wow, their naming department sucks balls.

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Originally posted by 12131:
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And, why the hell does everything have to be Legion, now?

Because they're in a Legion of their own!

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
Guess I'm just a bit too Neanderthal for all that. I just grab the slide over the top from the back like I've always done it, and if there's an optic there my hand goes over it. It's not my goal, but if the optic ends up serving as a charging handle as a result, so be it. If it fails under those conditions then it's not fit for service anyway.

Personally I'd rather work around or with the optic than be grabbing and manipulating the gun so close to where the bullets come out...but I'm no grand master, either.

Thank you; my sentiments exactly!

So far I haven't gone with optics on any of my pistols as I'm old school enough to want to use iron sights. Eventually my eyesight may deteriorate enough to require them, but for now I'll pass. If/when I am forced to use an optic, it better be able to handle me grabbing onto it or I wouldn't want it!

I’m kinda interested. Whats with the two trigger systems. Is the single action basically the p320 action?

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Originally posted by Amurr:
I’m kinda interested. Whats with the two trigger systems. Is the single action basically the p320 action?

It's got a hammer, so no. Just a reworked variant of the P226/P229 SAO, which already existed.

I'm very interested in learning whether the new P226 is an aesthetic/ergonomic refresh and they left the internals - small parts, barrel, slide/rail interface, etc - the same or not. Also mags...especially mags.

I like the grips - similar to the Hogue Contour style which turns out I really like. Definitely like the fact they resisted putting holes in the slide like the Zev version, or worse, that "Pro-Cut" abomination. I grease everything, and that would allow limitless crap to stick inside.

Not sure if I like the DA/SA trigger shape - kind of like the GGI Hybrid trigger that I ran for a while but went back to the standard curved. I like looks of the corner on the original P226 trigger guard, but the new rounded one is fine given my grip doesn't use that.

The Carry version does seem like this is a set up to retire the P229 line.

^^^They will likely be compatible with previous models. SIG has never really changed the things you’ve mentioned. The same goes for magazines (especially where the 9mm P226 is concerned).

The P226-XCARRY (at least from the pictures) looks like it’s going to use P226 hardware (locking insert/barrel lug and takedown lever location) and won’t have anything in common with a P229. I do think the current P229-1 configuration is pointless now (because SIG has abandoned 40/357 entirely) and you might be onto something thinking that this is SIG’s way of replacing it eventually (like with a new line of P226 Carry/Compact models).

The P226-X mainly seems like an exercise in adding a trim level that sits between the Legion line and the XFIVE line. It’s comparable to the old German Sport models (at least the standard length ones without compensators or barrel weights).

I am one of those weird folks who does tend to run the slide from the front with an optic attached. While my brain knows the G forces the optic experiences while shooting are far more then that of me running the slide with the optic, I still don’t like banging on my optic.

Oh, I saw that lineup, and I WANT at least the 226X carry. Hoping to see some soon, and hoping not too pricey. Like the looks a lot. Would the standard P226 mags fit the new P226X carry legion?
( If I can convince hubby, I’d get the p211 GTO too, lol.)

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Too bad it’s a Kurz

Give it a month it will be out in normal 9mm. You know how SIG is

Price is TBD.