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Originally posted by 12131:
<<<------- What about the guy who collects guns he never shoots?

Just another ape with thumbs?

I'm guilty of this. I used my carry handgun (DA/SA) in IDPA for a couple of years and then decided to send it to Grayguns for their carry treatment.

I maybe picked up a little accuracy in IPDA, but probably it just smoothed out the first (DA) trigger pull so I was less mentally focused on it, and more focused on consistency in the stage. The reduced re-set may have helped my time a little too, but there was not a dramatic gain in skill or result.

Regardless, the Grayguns money was (IMO) well spent as I enjoy shooting it more now.

I am a trigger snob and freely admit it.

Doesn't bother me a bit. Keeps the flow of new products in good supply.

Only a tiny fraction of us will ever use a firearm in self defense. In that already small group, a smaller fraction will have the outcome decided by fractions of seconds or inches.

Take a look at big game hunters. Obviously the consequences are very different, but the stress of having to perform on demand and the pass/fail nature of the exercise is not. Guys obsess over rifles that will shoot tiny groups and then totally blow the shot on the big buck. They shoot too fast and fail to aim or flinch and pull off target. Most of those misses are by FEET, not inches.

Have fun buying, shooting or talking about it. Just have fun.

There are not enough doodads made to compensate for a lack of skill.

When people become disappointed that their latest purchase has not improved their performance, I am sometimes happy to buy a steeply discounted product.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Worst are the AR15 crowd. Ha ha ha. But, honestly, don't care. It's their money. Keep the gun industry afloat.

agreed, the koolaid changes almost weekly it seems ,


competitive shooters can be as guilty, thinking one brand is better (and may be) or this doo dad will get me an extra point

Where have you been? This has been going on for decades, if not longer.

I'm guilty of having firearms sit in the safe for years without taking them out to the range but when I first started shooting I would take everything out to the range and believe me cleaning ten firearms is no fun after an all day range session. I don't buy parts to improve my shooting as I believe as many do that practice is the only way to improve, I get accessories for comfort of shooting ie grips and stocks. I have also replaced recoil spring for reliability and installed ambi-safeties on my 1911s.

It's not mutually exclusive to improve yourself and improve your gun.

This stupid ass thread made it to two pages?
Here have a bump

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Originally posted by gc70:
There are not enough doodads made to compensate for a lack of skill.

When people become disappointed that their latest purchase has not improved their performance, I am sometimes happy to buy a steeply discounted product.

Also see- The sights were off on this gun because it keeps hitting low left and I am a right handed shooter.

I suppose that I could compete in F1 with my pickup if I was good enough?
Specialized equipment is better than generalized or improper equipment.

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Originally posted by BehindBlueI's:
It's not mutually exclusive to improve yourself and improve your gun.

Message that is lost on many. Funny to see this kind of sentiment on a site that one of premier gun-enhancing businesses in the country considers home.
I've literally no gun that has not been modded one way or another. Sometimes it gets done before I even fired a first shot. Hopeless attempt to buy skills.


I dry fire daily, shoot weekly, compete and take classes whenever I can. That's just for show.

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Originally posted by YVK:
I dry fire daily, shoot weekly, compete and take classes whenever I can. That's just for show.

You are knowledgeable; that is different from people who go online to ask what mods to make before even taking delivery of a new gun.

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Originally posted by John3200:
How many posts do we have to see where someone says something like "I just bought my P226, what mods so I do to make it shoot better?"?

People, spend more money and time ACTUALLY SHOOTING. LOL.

That new guide rod will make 0% difference in your skill level.

Its only been happen as long as the internet has existed.

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Originally posted by gc70:

You are knowledgeable; that is different from people who go online to ask what mods to make before even taking delivery of a new gun.

I understand the sentiment and won't argue that there are folks who have wrong priorities. However, in a right context, I don't think what you're talking about is always wrong. For some, modifying a gun right off is a crutch. For others modding takes the equipment out of equation mentally and allows them to forget about the hardware and concentrate on themselves. Main point of my initial reply is objection to painting all "modders" with a broad brush.

What a bunch of CRAP. Most you all should be ashamed.

Just because YOU didn't get any better with a new guide rod doesn't mean anything. Don't put your failures on us.

There are gearheads in many different venues. I encounter them on pretty much ever forum I've joined. It seems to be most prevalent with cars, guitars and guns. I pretty much leave my guns stock, but I have modified a couple: I added a red dot to my M&P9 C.O.R.E., since that was what it was designed for, and I added (then removed) a laser from my P938. I've changed grips on my P938 and my S&W 360j, to make both of them a better shooter -- for me.

I consider my mods extremely minor. I've seen guitar players pick up a brand new, pristine guitar (usually electric) and immediately go about removing the neck, the pickguard, the pickups, etc. To me, that's kind of like, "Why did you buy the guitar in the first place if it wasn't what you wanted?" It's a thing to some: nothing off the shelf is good enough until I've put my mark on it.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
I have a lot of guns, a lot that I get made fun of at work. I haven't shot some of them in over a year. Biweekly I shoot my 31, 32, 33. Hey, work pays for the ammo and I have 24/7 access to the range, so I'm going to make the best of it and I mainly use those guns since those are my everyday guns.

I haven't shot my Glock 21 in, I don't know? a couple of years since I got 9mm suppressors in.

I mainly see it on Glock sites.
Hi, I just bought a new Glock xx. What trigger should I put in it? sights? 25cent job? metal recoil rod? one guy asked what is the best black coating for the slide, on a new guN!

That's funny right there.