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Is it just me, or does anyone else think it’s unusual for Sig to announce that the p210 standard model has been discontinued and it has yet become difficult to obtain ? There are dozens of auctions that end daily without being purchased. Sigs own website still says “ limited quantities available “ Has the popularity of the 210 dropped that much? Usually when a company announces that a gun of this Magnitude is being discontinued people are scrambling for them . I’m Just wondering what some of your thoughts are on what this means for the future of the 210 line as a whole? With the closing of the German plant , does Sig just drop the line entirely and focus on making polymer guns that the market has seemingly gone to ? | ||
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Sig’s focus is the P320 and P365. Everything else is secondary. The P210 Standard is gone and the P210 Carry never even started. | |||
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I wonder if Sig cares that I won't buy their guns because they tend to "Cut and Run" on their own products? Sig make good gun's but there not any better then what other company's are producing and I do like long term commitment. | |||
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If their track record is anything to go by, no. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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That’s kind of my concern . With only the target left how long will it be before they just drop it entirely. I could see it happening . Look at when people “ thought “ that FN wasn’t making the scar 16 anymore ,they sure could have stopped , at the time it wasn’t a very good seller compared to the 17. But it wasn’t discontinued. It just wasn’t in production for tooling . That didn’t stop people from paying over 5k for one. FOMO kicks in . I know it’s a totally different animal . But you don’t see that happening here .Which makes me wonder how viable the 210 series still is and how long it will survive . | |||
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It got released at an unfortunate time. For the last two years people have focused on more practical items. Double stack 9mm pistols, combat rifles, ammo, armor, night vision, toilet paper. There isn’t even enough ammo to enjoy a range plinker. | |||
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| Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
The P210A standard with white 3-dot "contrast" sights didn't sell. I have P210A Target with the fiber optic adjustable sights. I put Hogue grips on it instead of the huge target grips. The P210A standard grips are not nearly as good as the aftermarket Hogues. This is all about Sig selling a variant people don't want or see no value in. | |||
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I was looking forward to a compact or carry model. Guess that aint happening.  End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Seriously, did Sig just manufacture Sig 365s 24/7 for a year or two before they were initially released? There are SO many of them all over. I dig, and if I did not have and super-dig my SA EMP, I'd get an 365XL with a manual safety, but I'm good... | |||
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I’ll have to look into the Hogues. I’ve been thinking about picking up a target model before sig decides to bail on the 210 entirely but my hesitation has been those huge grips on them. I will say it’s still interesting that the standard is a variant that people don’t want because that IS the 210.. that is the model the Swiss and legend were founded on. I think it’s like everything else in this world. People want a Humvee until they came out with the H2 everyone could afford. People wanted a three thousand dollar target pistol made in Switzerland or Germany before they started stamping them out here in the states for twelve hundred bucks . It loses some of its prestige perhaps . | |||
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I think that most American shooters who will buy a P210 want adjustable sights, since it is, by nature a target pistol, and it's helpful to zero the gun for the exact ammo you're shooting. I have used mine for steel shooting and will likely use it for Bianchi / NRA Action Pistol. Armory Craft makes excellent G10 replacement stocks for the large target grips that come on the pistol. | |||
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You are not the only one. Sig is clearly committed to the P320 and P365. I wouldn't hesitate on those. Some of their other stuff though.... | |||
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This is a very valid point and very helpful. Perhaps it is best to avoid the standard model due to its lack of popularity and what most shooters want . I’m currently considering a purchase and though my heart is pulling me toward it. I want to stop and collect my thoughts a bit and make sure it’s really what I should be doing. That’s why I joined here hoping to pull some knowledge out of the people who know Sigs best . | |||
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My opinion. The 210 was cool to gun snobs when it was Swiss. Once it became American made, easy to get, and not unreasonably priced the allure was gone. I didn’t realize it didn’t cone with adjustable sights. That’s idiotic. It’s a target gun at its core. To me that means adjustable sights. These guns have an avid following that I have never understood. At all. I have never shot one just handled them in the store. Doesn’t even move the needle. Sig is Sigs worst enemy. The lack of support for products that they discontinue rather quickly is disturbing. I love the 225a1’s but still shake my head at their magazine design. Sig needs to pull their head out of their ass. | |||
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| Freethinker |
Having been a member here for some time, something I’ve seen several times: Much clamoring for a particular model, only to see all the clamoring and even much discussion abruptly cease after the model was introduced. The P227 and 10mm P220 are two that stick in my mind in particular, but there were others. I was intrigued by a P210 at one time, but at long, long last in my gun-buying experiences I have finally (more or less) managed to ask myself “Why?” before laying down the money. What would I use one for? To see if I could shoot a better group at 50 yards with it than I can with any of the other handguns I own? And if I could? Then what? Most of the people who would buy a P210 for that purpose, or even to impress the other competitors at the local meets have probably already bought one, and most likely have relegated it to the back of a safe behind the guns that they actually use. When a model stops selling, the manufacturer stops manufacturing and the vendors stop buying. “On the ropes?” Yes, if not actually on the canvas. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by pedropcola: My opinion. The 210 was cool to gun snobs when it was Swiss. Once it became American made, easy to get, and not unreasonably priced the allure was gone. This is what I was trying to say and you summed it up perfectly. actually the 210 did not start off as a target gun , it was originally developed as a military sidearm and therefore wouldn’t have adjustable sights . | |||
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Spot on my friend , spot on . | |||
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| Freethinker |
Which was why even my limited interest was only for one with fixed sights. (And yes, why not then a genuine surplus military model? No good answer to that either.) But now that the subject has been raised, if the modern P210 is theoretically useful only as a target gun, what modern target shooting disciplines in particular would it be seriously useful for? ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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That is a question I cannot answer . I’m not particularly into target shooting . I will say that I would not feel under armed with a 210-6 in my nightstand . However, I’ve never been an individual who says that certain guns have to be used for certain purposes. If it goes bang, and your trained with it , it can defend you , target pistol or not. I have double stack 9s an FNX 45 even a FN 5.7 with 30 round magazines. Everyone thinks their going to be in a diehard movie where they need to fight their way out of a 30 story office building full of trained special ops terrorists. Probably not gonna happen. However , I agree in most cases higher capacity when ever possible is a good thing . I don’t think the 210 is any different then say the browning hi power or the p7m8 ( both of which I love ) but then again both of those are retired pieces of history which is perhaps where the 210 should have been relegated to before sig USA started making them . | |||
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Wow First off, the one currently produce does have adjustable sights. Secondly, the P210 was a service gun, not a target gun originally. The original design did not have adjustable sights. | |||
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