There seems to be a trend where people Cerakote anything and everything. Even brand new guns. I personally don't care for the looks. especailly camo jobs on pistols.

Would love to here from proffesional refinisher's on what their thoughts are

Question:
Is Cerakote a quality product?

Choices:
Yes...its awesome
No...its crap
Its mediocre

 

Oh And I saw that SIg is now using cerakote on their legions?

Never liked paint job. Yeah, it's a paint job, no matter what fancy name you give it. It's not like NP3 or CPII or Nitron.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Never liked paint job. Yeah, it's a paint job, no matter what fancy name you give it. It's not like NP3 or CPII or Nitron.

Its good to have my opinion validated. I always thought it looked sub par!!

I think the Cerakoe on Legions is better than the original PVD, but that's not saying a whole lot.

I would rather my Legions were Nitron. They could have done a Nitron slide and gray anodized frame (if it had do be something other than black) and saved a whole lot of trouble...

I won't buy anything with a shake and bake finish. Don't like the way it looks or wears.

To have a top notch finisher apply Cerakote puts you about to the lower end of a Hard Chrome, Boron Nickel, type coating price wise.

Ion Bond DLC runs much higher, I think much of the allure of Cerakote is the vast array of colors.

I've never had a firearm or part in any form of Cerakote, but have applied a lot of KG Guncote and Moly Resin. Which I accept for what those coatings are, a better alternative to bluing.

Cerekote, like nickel, bluing and hard chroming are either crap or great depending on the people doing the work.

The same Bubba that works down the alley doing bad nickel and powder coating is probably going to do a bad Ceracote job

Cerecote jobs from SIG, Colt or Smith & Wesson will be done very well

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Originally posted by colt_saa:
Cerekote, like nickel, bluing and hard chroming are either crap or great depending on the people doing the work.

The same Bubba that works down the alley doing bad nickel and powder coating is probably going to do a bad Ceracote job

Cerecote jobs from SIG, Colt or Smith & Wesson will be done very well

Of course, that's true with anything in life, it's the person doing the work. But, take the human variable out of the equation, i.e., assume all quality works, and Cerakote cannot hold a candle against CPII in terms of wear and tear resistance. Or, take Cera-Hide vs. CPII, for example, both by CCR. CPII would win everyday.

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Originally posted by colt_saa:
Cerekote, like nickel, bluing and hard chroming are either crap or great depending on the people doing the work.

The same Bubba that works down the alley doing bad nickel and powder coating is probably going to do a bad Ceracote job

Cerecote jobs from SIG, Colt or Smith & Wesson will be done very well

It's still a spray bomb paint job no matter who does it.
Just because Sig had it applied doesn't mean it won't look like shit after a few trips through a holster.
My M11-A1 is FDE Cerakote and looks like I drag it behind my truck. Scratched and gouged all the way to the stainless slide and anodized frame.
Far more wear than a regular Nitron gun with the same holster and use.

The only thing that I would Cerakote would be a safe queen, if I had one of those. That finish is all show, no go. No go as in doesn’t wear well.

I've wondered about Cerakote for some time. I guess now I have my answers.

It's baked on paint for goodness sake!

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by colt_saa:
Cerekote, like nickel, bluing and hard chroming are either crap or great depending on the people doing the work.

The same Bubba that works down the alley doing bad nickel and powder coating is probably going to do a bad Ceracote job

Cerecote jobs from SIG, Colt or Smith & Wesson will be done very well

Of course, that's true with anything in life, it's the person doing the work. But, take the human variable out of the equation, i.e., assume all quality works, and Cerakote cannot hold a candle against CPII in terms of wear and tear resistance. Or, take Cera-Hide vs. CPII, for example, both by CCR. CPII would win everyday.

What is CPII?

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Originally posted by HODY905:
What is CPII?

CCR's proprietary plating, http://www.ccrrefinishing.com/information.html

I had a ceracoted pistol once. Wore so quickly and did not hold up.

Most of my Glocks have been CPII’d by CCR and a lot of my barrels as well.

If I was allowed to CPII my duty weapon, it would’ve been done long ago.

Pics:
Glock 35 slide and barell CPII
Glock 21 slide CPII Dusk with CPII barrel

But, but, but, can I get CPII in black desert multicam? Lol

All the above it true. That being said I like to tinker with some guns. I own box stock or nearly so glocks and sigs but sometimes I hanker to start adding parts like my wife wandering a DSW. It isn’t smart or necessary but it’s fun. And yes I still can afford ammo and training for goodness sake, it’s not always either or. Lol

I don’t own a gun with dark desert 3 tone combat multicam. But I won’t judge you if you do, because guilty pleasure being what it is, I might like it. You can’t honestly tell me a well done color case hardening is the best choice to protect your gun either. It’s pretty though.

No ownership experience with Cerakote but what I have seen if new guns in shops with it doesn’t impress me. Seems to wear or flake off with just handling. Now granted folks don’t tend to handle display firearms with kid gloves but still wasn’t impressive.

Conversely whatever paint like substance is applied to CZ’s seems to be durable as all get out.

So I guess count me in the NAY mediocre camp. There is just better stuff out there.

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Originally posted by powermad:

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Originally posted by colt_saa:
Cerekote, like nickel, bluing and hard chroming are either crap or great depending on the people doing the work.

The same Bubba that works down the alley doing bad nickel and powder coating is probably going to do a bad Ceracote job

Cerecote jobs from SIG, Colt or Smith & Wesson will be done very well

It's still a spray bomb paint job no matter who does it.
Just because Sig had it applied doesn't mean it won't look like shit after a few trips through a holster.
My M11-A1 is FDE Cerakote and looks like I drag it behind my truck. Scratched and gouged all the way to the stainless slide and anodized frame.
Far more wear than a regular Nitron gun with the same holster and use.

Any chance you could post a picture of your m11. I am guessing that a picture is worth a thousand words!!

We are all being nice but I’m in a mood (steel cased ammo thread lol) so I’ll say it. If you have

“Scratched and gouged all the way to the stainless slide and anodized frame.”

there is no fucking finish in the world that would stand up to that short of M1 Abrams armor. That whole statement is ludicrous. Do you think any finish would stood up to something that gouged the metal? Be friggin reasonable. I know this is the interwebz and we all like to spout but come on.