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How about this? Instead of discussing it, why don’t you buy one for and put it on a full sized gun? Then, for a few months head over to Owensboro for their USPSA match. Run it in USPSA, THEN decide if it’s safe to bet your life on? ORPC runs a good match that’s very cop friendly match. You’ll run into cops from all over KY to include staties, LMPD tac and marksmanship team guys, and guys from my place. I usually shoot Friday matches and if you I’ll hook you up and pay you match fees if I’m there. Let me know. ________________ People hate you. Train like it. | |||
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Road Dog |
Hey jones. I think I’m picking up that you’re not a fan of osight optics. LOL. I get what you’re saying about depending my life on my gun. But, I will have co witness irons. We both know in most shootings sights aren’t ever used anyway. But, I like to have them and practice with them and use them if ever needed and circumstance and time allow. I took a chance on Holosuns when I bought my first one. I have been pleased with them and carry one everyday. This osight company has caught my eye like Holosun did however many years ago. It’s nice to see companies making things better with great features at a good price. I’ll give them a try. Not ever remotely really needing a gun? I’m guessing that is sarcasm? I’m a little slow today. I appreciate the offer of the fees for the comp shooting. If I ever go, I will definitely let ya know! | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Has zero to do with Osight. Has everything to do with armed professionals making horrible decisions (individual and agencies alike) buying cheap stuff. I came up in an atmosphere of the Temu range. I was a junior FI and cops would show up with mountains of cheap shit hung on their guns. “Hey bro, check this out it’s a vertical foregrip, but it also has a bipod, a microwave oven, a can opener and a file. It got really great reviews”. Then when they had to actually perform it would fall off, fall apart, or do everything but help them shoot faster. Cheap optics all had the same issues. We saw guns that wouldn’t hold zero from range session to range session. And these were guns that were in the field that luckily we didn’t have to explain why after the fact it was allowed. When I got into a position of influence, we stopped allowing cheap gear and went strictly Aimpoint, EoTech and Trijicon. Our zeroing problems stopped. Now that I run things, we have a pathway for cheaper optics to get approved to allow more “budget” options. This far some Holosuns offerings and some Vortex offerings have been approved. Don’t have that kind of infrastructure? Cool, install it properly and go shoot some matches with it. That will tell you (at least short term) about durability and usability. If you are an armed professional and you aren’t training for practical shooting anyways, you are doing it wrong. I fully understand that not everyone is on a position to buy expensive equipment. Bills, kids, family, etc. but how much can you provide for them if you are dead? And that’s best case scenario. Sitting in prison because you accidentally shot the wrong person (a miss) due to your optic going stupid ain’t cool. I can’t imagine sitting on the stand and trying to convince an attorney or worse a jury “it got really good reviews online”. The vicarious liability for management alone is not worth it. If you are the kind of dude that is strictly only “a good witness” cool. If you are the kind of dude that may pass by an active shooter at a school and roll in with only a 43 and can do attitude, choose wisely. If you want a plug and play, go with the EPS Carry. ________________ People hate you. Train like it. | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
I 100% agree with this, with the caveat that a couple of years ago we were all saying the same thing about Holosun, and look where they are now. But I've also definitely gone my rounds with guys who want to hang a bunch of chinesium third-party garbage on their work guns. As I mentioned in my original post, I'm not ready to fully endorse the Osight yet. I've been carrying it on my own time, doing stuff around the house or in the woods, and have about 2000 rounds through the gun with no problems. Shooting a match with it would be a great idea, actually, just haven't had a chance yet this year. But if I'm in town or driving around in my take-home vehicle off-duty, I'm still wearing a Sig with approved optics that I'm qualified on. I too was very skeptical of the $150 price tag when I bought it (as I was with the $270 Holosun a couple of years ago), but so far I've been very impressed and wouldn't be surprised if they end up giving Holosun a run for their money if they all end up working out like mine. ----------------------------------------------------------- Any comments made by this poster are my own and do not reflect the views or opinions of my employer. | |||
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