Kahr PM9 is sized just right for carry. Have had my PM9, which I bought used, for years. Pistol has never missed a beat. I don't shoot great quantities of ammo through it but it has handled a variety as I'm a hand loader. Recently bought a TP9 as the larger grip is more fun at the range and the trigger feel is the same as my PM9. I like a lot of different pistols for different uses but the Kahrs certainly have their place.

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Originally posted by sigp6:
I had an MK9 and currently have a CW45. Goddamn I hate those triggers.

What do you hate about them? I think Kahr’s triggers are one of the best things they have going on?

Once you make yourself realize these are basically small, flat revolvers that happen to autoload, it all makes sense.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by sigp6:
I had an MK9 and currently have a CW45. Goddamn I hate those triggers.

What do you hate about them? I think Kahr’s triggers are one of the best things they have going on?

Once you make yourself realize these are basically small, flat revolvers that happen to autoload, it all makes sense.

Yep. IMO the ideal CCW trigger.

PASig, I think you touched on the heart of the issue with Kahr triggers. Anecdotally, those who started out their handgun shooting using revolvers seem to almost universally enjoy and understand Kahr triggers and not have difficulty shooting accurately with them.

To someone who began with autoloaders and who has either never had revolvers or has not kept current with revolvers, there may be a problem adapting to Kahr triggers.

I'm in the first category and find the triggers on my Kahrs, which all happen to have metal frames, to be very good.

Shoot, my K9 has a better trigger out of box than most revolvers. It’s totally smooth start to finish, no stacking, nothing. It’s a perfect DAO. It would be hard to accidentally shoot your winky off. Great gun.

Never owned a Kahr. Never shot one. But, just from playing with many of them at gun shows, I found them to have amazingly smooth trigger. Buttery smooth. And, very nice in terms of handling and balance. Not sure why I never owned one. Weird.

Butter smooth triggers.

I tend to shortstroke them under pressure though. Just too many rounds in too many guns with a shorter reset.

Not the gun’s fault, and I carried a PM9 for a decade. Just muscle memory.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
It would be hard to accidentally shoot your winky off. Great gun.

Which is precisely the reason I chose a CM9 and not a G42 or G43 as my pocket gun. I could never get comfortable with the idea of a chambered Glock in my pocket, they are great guns but that very short pull trigger (compared to a Kahr) always gave me pause when considering pocket carry.

I lusted after a K9 for years much like a PPK, P230, etc.
Somehow managed to resist the urge until it mostly went away.
From a practical standpoint there are so many better options out there today.

This little guy is one of my favorite carry pieces.

I bought a new Kahr CT-40 in 2015. The trigger was quite heavy and I didn't keep it long. It was my first striker fired pistol and it turned me from them for years. A few weeks ago I bought a Walther PDP and am very satisfied with it.

I've got a very early K40 from the first year they started making them.

It's a quality pistol that has consistently done what it did when it was new.

I'm on my second barrel. Untold number of springs. It was my daily carry for 15+ years.

These days it gets relegated to occasional carry, and I have intermediate shooters practice with it, as the loooong trigger pull is good practice.

I shoot it pretty well, consistently, and I always considered it to be a bit of a pretty little pistol. It's just the right size for a lot of situations.

I'm just not in those situations very often anymore...so it lives in fanny packs, back-packs, etc quite often.

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
PASig, I think you touched on the heart of the issue with Kahr triggers. Anecdotally, those who started out their handgun shooting using revolvers seem to almost universally enjoy and understand Kahr triggers and not have difficulty shooting accurately with them.

To someone who began with autoloaders and who has either never had revolvers or has not kept current with revolvers, there may be a problem adapting to Kahr triggers.

I'm in the first category and find the triggers on my Kahrs, which all happen to have metal frames, to be very good.

Very well stated. I started on double action revolvers also. All of this talk of triggers is amusing. I only have one Kahr (CM9)but I do like it in my concealed carry rotation. I believe it’s called a Mika holster that I use inside the pocket.

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I only have one Kahr (CM9)but I do like it in my concealed carry rotation. I believe it’s called a Mika holster that I use inside the pocket.

Mika pocket holsters are excellent. I have one for my K9 and have been very pleased with it for many years.

I bought a K40 Kahr many years ago; still own it, but pretty much have become addicted to everything
Sig makes. In my 26 year career in Federal Law Enforcement (USSS - retired 1986) we only carried
S&W model l9's, so I've also purchased a number of
S&W models. I enjoyed shooting my K-40. I also hate getting rid of firearms I own, so storage is becoming a problem. What do I currently carry?

A Sig MllAl 9mm, or a P-229 Platinum Elite .357 Sig.

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Originally posted by Michael J. Shannon:
I bought a K40 Kahr many years ago; still own it, but pretty much have become addicted to everything
Sig makes. In my 26 year career in Federal Law Enforcement (USSS - retired 1986) we only carried
S&W model l9's, so I've also purchased a number of
S&W models. I enjoyed shooting my K-40. I also hate getting rid of firearms I own, so storage is becoming a problem. What do I currently carry?

A Sig MllAl 9mm, or a P-229 Platinum Elite .357 Sig.

I have yet to sell a gun. I always figure that I had a reason to buy a gun at the time of the purchase. May not remember that reason now though. As long as I have storage room, not a seller.

Just to weigh in on my personal bias against the Kahr trigger:

My favorite semi auto action type is da/sa though I have dao autos and revolvers as well. All of these have a trigger wall or stage or stack giving me as the shooter feedback that the trigger is about to break. All except the Kahrs. It is not a deal breaker, particularly as more rounds are fired during a practice session allowing one to relearn the trigger travel. It is however different enough to notice.

Today I joined the Kahr owners club. I came across an attractive deal on a used P9. I liked how it felt in my hand, so I decided to take a chance on it. I shot it side-by-side w/ my P365, and in slow-fire, right away I was shooting the P9 more accurately & grouping tighter than the P365.

I think one of the reasons is the bar-dot Von Stavenhagen sights. I've always prefered them to 3-dot sights. The other thing is, it fits my hand well. As soon as I grab it, everything seems to line up properly. I have or had other subcompacts, such as the aforementioned P365, P938, G43, G43X, G48, G26, Rami, Shield. With most sub & micro compacts, it takes more effort for me to get them on target quickly.

The DAO trigger reminds a lot of HK's Light LEM. It's long but smooth w/o much stacking. The reset is very long, and I can see how that's a dealbreaker for many shooters. As others have pointed out, I'm OK w/ it for the same reasons revolver shooters are OK w/ their triggers.

So far I'm pleasantly surprised by my new-to-me Kahr. At 0.9" wide, it's still thinner than any other 9mm micro-compact on the market. It's crazy how much difference 0.1" in width feels in a handgun.

I have a P380, a PM9 and an MK9. They have all been reliable and I like them all.

Magazines seem like they could have a better quality to me but they function and are well designed guns overall.

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Originally posted by tomsem:


Magazines seem like they could have a better quality to me but they function and are well designed guns overall.

I believe Kahr makes their own mags unlike the majority of other gun makers who farm that out, even Keltec IIRC uses Mec-Gar to make theirs. It's the springs that I think are the problem, they are known to not be the best out there.

I find them REALLY hard to load for some reason but the Magguts kits are a game-changer. Adds one round with just a new spring and follower they made. I'm a big fan of them and I'm hearing they actually improve the reliability of the Kahr mags that way in addition to giving you the +1 without adding an extension.