I got to thinking. Why don't I shoot Glocks? The grip angle.

I've tried. More than once. Lots of money lost buying and reselling. Like Sig grip angle. Don't like Glock angle.

So, if you were Glock, and wanted more business, why wouldn't you create a Glock 1911 version? You just have to differentiate your magazines and frames. Sure, easy to do. NOT! But, think of the upside!

You overcome the main objection to me selecting your product. I can't shoot it. Nor can Jerry Miculek. Of course, I jest. But, he speaks of the challenge of the Glock grip angle.

You get access to everyone who can't shoot your pistols, all for the price of a couple of frame molds and magazine molds.

Why not?

I know, they have enough business. They can't keep up with demand. Etc.

But, think of the upside. Total and complete domination of a market.

Probably not. Although grip angle is the main thing I dislike, there's a couple other things I'm not fond of. I must be one of the few people who doesn't like a low bore axis. Also don't like the safety trigger; I don't like clicky things under my trigger finger. Add to that the, er, utilitarian aesthetics, still a no-sale for me. Oh yes, also prefer DA/SA to striker guns. Wow, long list.

Could see it happening.

I've already bought one that was patterned after the M&P. Works with existing magazines and shoots great!

I am collecting a few M&P because of the grip angle. Could have been Glocks.

Cut a beavertail backstrap right where the stippling starts and install the top portion on the pistol. Changes the angle to conventional and solves slide bite. I do it on all of mine and I dont have any issue moving back and forth between different guns with different angles. If you dont feel like much of a plastic surgeon theres a few companies that sell such things.

Nope. If I wanted a Glock with a SIG grip angle, I'd just guy a SIG.

Would you buy a SIG if someone roll marked it as a Glock? Let's be real, there's not a lot of difference between the major players, and what difference exists is largely driven by personal preference.

Nope. Nothing I can do with a Glock that I can't already do with a P320. You get the better grip angle, modular grips, removable FCU, sights that aren't plastic, and a WAY better trigger. Just buy the Sig.

Nope, one of the salient features of the Glock is logistics. While competing designs may offer subjective improvements over the Glock, Gaston's design has more support and options than anything else out there.

We live in a Glock world.

These threads come up periodically.

There is no incentive for Glock to make a gun that emulates another gun. They already make one of the most popular lines of firearm on the market and for a lot of people, the commonality in manual of arms, parts, accessories, and holsters, is a major selling point.

Folks with the grip angle issue are weird. A Glock is a Glock, and a SIG is a SIG, and, I have no problems shooting either. So it's a nonissue for me.

Exactly why I went the p80 route. Better grip texturing and angle. Still not contoured great compared to.other polymer pistols but still a huge step up from glock.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Folks with the grip angle issue are weird. A Glock is a Glock, and a SIG is a SIG, and, I have no problems shooting either. So it's a nonissue for me.

I agree, people get too wrapped up in things that don’t matter too much. I own and shoot guns that are very different from each other and I don’t have any problems. As long as I’m shooting regularly it’s a non issue

Yeah, I probably would. When the G4 came out, I handled one. Liked the improved grip texture, liked the bigger mag release, and I generally like finger grooves. Thought, “huh, maybe I’ll be buying...” then I pointed it out and looked at the sights. Pointed at far corner of the ceiling. “...something other than a Glock. Oh well”

So if they did make a normal pistol, yeah, I’d get one (after the price settled).

I would consider it - just a straight backstrap with no hump might be enough (G43x and G48 are better than the others in this regard)

Glock's insistence on boxy plastic covered magazines and the resulting blocky grip just doesn't fit my hand well though. P30, VP9 and P320 are much better, especially using the small inserts or grip module.

Great question. Easy answer: No.
I do not like polymer frame striker-fired guns, period.
Ergonomic & Glock are mutually exclusive.
I searched for a reason to buy & use a Glock, but came up empty.

I built a P80 G19 clone. (1911 grip angle)
I don't get bunched up on grip angle, but this P80 is one of my favorite pistols to shoot.

A grip angle change could make the magazine angle change in relation the the other internal parts of the gun. That could have a number of issues regarding operation of the gun.
In other words, not as simple as it sounds.
For me, the shape of the grip is the problem. The SIG grip shape just feels like it was made for my hand as does the M&P.

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No, because it's difficult for me to not shoot low with a Sig grip angle.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
A grip angle change could make the magazine angle change in relation the the other internal parts of the gun. That could have a number of issues regarding operation of the gun.
In other words, not as simple as it sounds.
For me, the shape of the grip is the problem. The SIG grip shape just feels like it was made for my hand as does the M&P.

The p80 grip angle is a 1911 grip angle but the magazine angle remains the same. Glocks have that giant gap behind the magazine. The p80 moves the grip foward so not it sits against the back of the grip and there is more space in the front which is with the grip is more vertical.

A variant of the PSA PS9 will have a 1911 angle so they say. The one they showed at SHOT looks like a P Classic grip which piqued my interest.