Saw their announcement of their new Spectre models (320 XCompact and 365XL).

I don't follow the P320 lineup even remotely closely, but, looking at the Spectre P320 XCompact's specs, the barrel is 3.9 inches. What? That's the XCarry's barrel length. The original XCompact's barrel is 3.6 inches. Now, they call this new Spectre with a 3.9 inch barrel XCompact, also?

Oh yeah, got to love the faded jeans look and the two holes on top of the slide.

https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-xcompact-spectre.html

gotta keep it fresh or people won't keep buying them.

I have a few guns that look like that, but I prefer honest wear.

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I have a few guns that look like that, but I prefer honest wear.

agreed. My P226 has honest wear and tear on it.

Typical Sig Exeter Marketing genius for you. They like to break rule #1: Don't Confuse the Customer.

Sig is going to put a rail and optics plate on every new pistol. I think that is what's taking so long for the P210 Carry. They need to think of a way to sneak those features into its design and calling it the P210 Carry All, Because We Know Better... i.e. the P210 Carry All BWKB.

I thing it would be better to name their new guns : the P320 of the Month Nr...! she will be probably discontinued next year as usual... Come on Sig where is the M18 black?

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Welcome James...

Actually it looks pretty good, interesting name though, same as the evil group Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion.

Doesn't surprise me. This is the company that originally released the P320 Compact as the P320 Carry, then after a year or two when they released a true Carry size gun (compact slide + full length grip), the former Carry became the more accurately named Compact.

I can replicate that finish with my case tumbler, some steel pins and a can of clear coat LOL. (not just saying that, I did it on some spare Beretta 92 controls)

SIG has taken over S&W's old habit of releasing more new models than anyone can keep track of, then quietly discontinuing many of them before long. I don't mind the worn look, and think the optics ready slide is a great idea, but am not a fan of the current trend of putting holes in the slide. I suspect that fad will eventually go away. It is nice that modern CNC machinery and manufacturing techniques make it cheap and easy to make changes to slides and grips.

Unless the barrel is ported, I have no use for the lightning cuts forward on the slide.
I will say this pistol looks like it belongs in a Marvel movie. Nick Fury’s new gun

Faded jeans nee those threaded worn out slits to be hip....

Too much gimmick for me, something I wouldn't buy, but I suspect I'm not their target customer. Sig is in the business of selling more pistols and rifles, and a lot of buyers respond to things that attract them, and things that are cheap. Sigs aren't cheap, and I'm sure they have the market research to back up what they hope to sell, so someone out there is predicted to buy it.

Sig has come up with some fairly innovative and well-received products. The P320, for example. and the P365, of late. They can't produce new children every day, so they dress up what they have. Not for me, but I dont' think Sig really cares. I'm already a customer. I suspect the "spectre" is for those who aren't.

A bit like the legion line. Sales fluff with an exclusive coin, but the do seem to have sold as intended. And bling or image or facade, the firearms do work. Some may be willing to pay a little more to get the cute worn look, or the goofy let-dirt-into-the-slide trendy gotta-have, and that's what counts.

With all the slides with holes in them these days, why bother with a dust cover?

For those willing to pay for "cool," why not? It's their dollar.

So... It would appear to me that the current fad of many holes in the slide would just offer an entry point for dirt, lint and other crap adding more chances for malfunction. Right?

They are for cooling of course. Hasn't everyone fired so many rounds in practice that they could light a cigarette by touching the barrel? No? Me neither. See no point for them then.

Big holes in a Glock or Sig slide? "Not for me".

Big hole in the top of a Beretta slide? Get in line...

I love how Sig has time to churn out marketing fluff like this (although I'm not sure what market they're targeting this heinous thing at), but I still haven't seen a P320 in 10mm, or for that matter, the 8 new M400s that we ordered for work back in January.

They have time to design, engineer and produce these variations, but offering 357 Sigs and .40's are too much trouble to be profitable?

I don't get it.

much akin to the rainbow and diamondplate of last decade

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They have time to design, engineer and produce these variations, but offering 357 Sigs and .40's are too much trouble to be profitable?

They aren't engineering anything. They are all based on the basic model. The coatings are don't by a supplier and don't take up any production capacity. The fact is they all sell. Even the Rainbow models sold. None are made in that great a number that they are stuck with excess stock.

As for the other calibers, the demand isn't there and producing them does take up production capacity. But the fact is both are in the current caliber in the /global Defense/ LE areas.

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or for that matter, the 8 new M400s that we ordered for work back in January.

Thorn your vendor is falling down on the job because they are cranking them out. the only slowdown was the move to the new Rochester facility a while back. My neighbor is getting OT building them weekely.