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And now we have "For example, if a grandfathered preban magazine is required to be owned prior to the onset of the Federal AWB does that mean it needs to be owned in the particular state, owned by current owner or, perhaps, does it simply mean that regardless of who was the first owner and where that ownership occurred that the magazine needs to have been owned by anyone (including a retailer? wholesaler?) prior to the onset of the AWB? There could be a multitude of permutations here making any clear cut interpretation of a somewhat ambiguous statue problematic. "

I know you can type but do you have any concept of how to read? Let's start with what State are we discussing? We can then all read the actual Statue involved and see what is in that language. It's nonsense to discuss this in the abstract. In some States it actual possession prior to, in others it mfg prior to and in some it does not matter or there are other rules. If a State merely adopted the Federal language (reproduced here so you can practice reading "Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection."
There is however a clear legal principle about this that has been applied by every single US court that ambiguity is resolved in favor of the defendant. So what State and then we can all see what is the language and stop this nonsense of hypothesizing. Since to my knowledge and research someone being charged SOLELY for this with ambiguity on the date of mfg. has never happened the case law is likely a little thin. But whatever. Let's see what statue you are up against and then we can move forward with trying to help you despite your attitude.


With all due respect (and that ain't much Smile ), I think that I'll go elsewhere for legal advice.

My main point in agreeing with the ex-attorney's posting here was to note that this is a complex issue and not so simple as it seems some may think. My original posting here was an attempt to gain knowledge regarding the magazines not legal advice.

I do not think it fair nor especially useful to ask those without a strong legal background and experience in this matter to provide legal advice. For example, it is extremely unlikely that one would be prosecuted for possessing or using a "high cap" magazine in isolation so comments about what the police might think or about being prosecuted solely for possession of a high cap magazine are, by definition, of no real value because, just to be clear, any charge regarding illegal possession of a high cap is overwhelmingly likely to occur in regard to a more serious incident/charge in which the prosecuting attorney's office is likely to be the one deciding upon and preferring charges.

OK, enough with this legal side trip.

Why don't we just let this whole thing lie until I am in a position to come back with my findings and to present things with more specificity? Perhaps by that time all the apparent emotion will have died down as well.

BTW, in regard to your comment about my ability to read, not only can I read and write, I can also think and analyze pretty well as my +3 sigma IQ would suggest.
 
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With all due respect (and that ain't much Smile ), I think that I'll go elsewhere for legal advice.
Perhaps you can find the time to go see your physician, to get that hair removed from your ass.

This is much ado about nothing.

You're about as uptight as anyone I've seen in this forum for quite some time. What do you do to relax?

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BTW, in regard to your comment about my ability to read, not only can I read and write, I can also think and analyze pretty well as my +3 sigma IQ would suggest.
Jeez Louise. Roll Eyes Pussy, man. Poon tang. When's the last time you got laid?

Y'know, I wouldn't put it past you to just be trolling us, 'coz this is some uptight, super-geeky stupid shit. Hard to believe, y'know?
 
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Nobody gives a shit about your worn out old magazines. I suspect you havn't been straight with us about moving to a ban State. Para was right from the start. Your topic is stupid. You are wasting the Members time here.
 
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OP keeps digging his hole, and it's not going to end well. With his last post, there is no doubt he's a troll.


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BTW, in regard to your comment about my ability to read, not only can I read and write, I can also think and analyze pretty well as my +3 sigma IQ would suggest.

You may be intelligent, but you either have a wide disparity in intelligence vs wisdom &/or suffer from hubris. A wise person wouldn't go out of his way to insult the experts whom he solicited. A wise person would realize when he's on his way to persona non grata.

But hey, when you've completed your 'working document' w/ Sig's cooperation, come back here to post it. It would be like publishing a paper for peer review. Afterwards, we can have a party to celebrate you as the leading authority on Sig magazines.
 
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