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Have a couple of questions for the jury:

1) What does the term "blem" actually mean? Is it a cosmetic issue (thin bluing, scratches, etc)?

2) How are "blem" guns identified? In other words, are the boxes marked as such so that a prospective buyer is aware of the fact?

I'm interested in a "new old stock" pistol I saw online and have yet to ask the seller if it is a blem or not. The hope is that he will be telling the truth! Thank you.
 
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Blem is typically a cosmetic flaw that doesn’t meet factory quality control.
S&W will mark a blem gun with a U in the serial #. Berretta with a Y. Dan Wesson with an upside down Y
The box typically with be labeled blem.
 
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"Blem" = minor cosmetic issues that have nothing to do with the mechanical functions of the firearms.

If the manufacturer sells a new gun as a blem, then it is a blem, even though sometimes you can hardly find the blem. If it is not sold as blem, you can often find cosmetic issues yourself and wonder why they didn't sell it as a blem.


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Blem = Blemish

Something on that weapon / part of the weapon isn't 100%.
May be minor cosmetic, a scratch, a "ding" or a dent. Improper finish.

The manufacturer won't put out a weapon that has a scratch on a lower receiver, however, because it's a minor scratch, the lower is 100% functional.

Bravo Company has stuff like this for sale a lot.

https://bravocompanyusa.com/bc...bled-demo-scratched/

$90 for a BCM Lower? Not a bad price if you ask me! (they used to be $80!)

But somewhere on the lower, there's a scratch, the finish is warn off on the edges, or there's a small dent that wont affect the function.
If you're building a "truck gun" or a "working gun" that's going to be tossed around and the opposite of a "safe queen", a "Blem" is the way to go.

Hell, I have a LMT upper that was a "blem" because of a small dent on one of the teeth of the rail. Doesn't affect anything- $150!


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My PSA lower was a blem. Searched & found none that were obvious to me.




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My PSA lower was a blem. Searched & found none that were obvious to me.


I also have purchased a blem PSA upper and found absolutely nothing wrong, damaged, or out of the ordinary.
 
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Taurus blem guns will have an "X" at the end of the serial number to denote that the gun was a blem. I have one with a tiny "zit" on the frame, and the gun shoots great.


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Also, If a manufacturer changes the markings on the gun sometimes they will sell the old ones as blem.


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Thanks guys. I figured it (mostly) means cosmetic blemish only but wanted to be sure. That's good to know how some companies at least indicate that a blemish exists.

Q: I loved the way you summed it up! LOL
 
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I've bought a lot of "blemished" parts, accessories, and firearms. It's been rare that I could visually spot the blemish, and when I could, it was nothing that I'd have given a second thought.

Manufacturers that sell "seconds," or "blemished" parts or firearms may do so because of a flaw in finish, even a scratch, or perhaps a slight color mismatch. Even so, Most manufacturers won't sell something even as a second or "blemished" item, unless it's meets their standard of function and fit, because that item still represents them, and their reputation.

Most of the time, a "blemished" item is one that the manufacturer won't sell as equal in finish to their other items, but will still sell because other than whatever the very minor blemish might be, the item is still desirable, and will still bring a profit.

Sig sells refurbished pistols that I've purchased; they're used, but the ones I own have come indistinguishable in appearance to a new firearm. I wouldn't hestitate to buy another, or most manufacturers "blemished" products.
 
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Sometimes, blem = overstock.
 
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I have some PSA blem lowers. No issues with them.

My Red Wing boots are factory seconds.

I bought a car with a rebuilt title.

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Originally posted by kaschi:
Have a couple of questions for the jury:

1) What does the term "blem" actually mean? Is it a cosmetic issue (thin bluing, scratches, etc)?

2) How are "blem" guns identified? In other words, are the boxes marked as such so that a prospective buyer is aware of the fact?

I'm interested in a "new old stock" pistol I saw online and have yet to ask the seller if it is a blem or not. The hope is that he will be telling the truth! Thank you.


I deal in blems some as a dealer. They're generally stuff with very minor cosmetic issues. The distributors mark them as such by creating a new listing for them and a lower price. I would not be surprised if some dealers buy these and sell as new. I've never seen one that I thought was "bad", and I've seen plenty of guns that were legit "new" that had bigger issues than any "blem."

You'll also see it from manufacturers sometimes. I've had very good luck with BCM "blem" lowers. Usually it's a flat spot in the finish or a scratch.
 
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Blem is typically a cosmetic flaw that doesn’t meet factory quality control.
S&W will mark a blem gun with a U in the serial #. Berretta with a Y. Dan Wesson with an upside down Y
The box typically with be labeled blem.


Per Smith & Wesson a “U” stamp on one of their pistols signifies it as being technically used and sold by S&W. Most of these 3rd Generation “U” marked pistols look in new old stock condition. They’re either demo/sales models or unused pistols traded in by LE Agencies to S&W when they acquired M&P’s.


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Salesman samples may be sold as blems.

Sig sells off their showroom demo's every year.
Not sure how they are "marked" but they are essentially new guns that have been handled a lot.
 
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Salesman samples may be sold as blems.

Sig sells off their showroom demo's every year.
Not sure how they are "marked" but they are essentially new guns that have been handled a lot.


Mostly red box "certified refurbished." I've sold quite a few of them and they're always in great shape.
 
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