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Curious if Sig might hop on the bandwagon with Ruger/PSA/CMMG/Smith and make a pistol or rifle in this chambering..? I like the PS-90, but none of the other options (especially the handguns) appeal to me. Would you ever EDC a 5.7x28? | ||
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I would say no. I also would say I don’t know why any manufacturer would make one. So maybe I’m the wrong one to ask. Lol | |||
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Because those that are being made and aren’t FN prices are selling like hotcakes! ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I find the .22 Magnum does about the same job at a cheaper price. As a highly specialized weapon for some tactical uses, I guess I can see it. If Sig does go 5.7, it may be a small bore version of the X10. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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A P365/P320 in 5.7 would be neat. Can't said I'd CCW one, IIRC there isn't really any commercially available SD options? Coworker bought a PSA Rock, will have to talk him into a range trip so I can try it out. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I hope not, the round is expensive and makes no sense to me honestly (even its AP ability to go through soft armor that you can't have is meh) I also hope they don't make anything in 30 super carry or whatever that is. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Gold-tinted trigger, gold-tinted barrel. Spectre Scorpion Fastback Nightmare Comp 5.7. Hell yeah | |||
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For real? |
Friend ordered a PSA Rock that was on sale with free shipping and ten mags. Should be coming in within the week. He already has a bunch of ammo and parts to build an AR57. He wants to build it with his grandson and his grandson said they needed a handgun in the caliber, so I'll see how it is. PSA's compact Dagger I have is running fine. I don't like the trigger but it runs. I'll still buy a Glock first over a Dagger since they're about the same price for me. Personally, I won't buy a 5.7 from anyone since I don't want to get into a new caliber. I tried getting work to get the P90 way back in the day when we were getting rid of our MP5s and UMPs. Thankfully they didn't listen to me and got 5.56 rifles. Not minority enough! | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
We shot the 5.7 at a car and some ballistic vest panels last year, and I have to say that I came away very unimpressed. It didn't penetrate even a single layer of soft armor (and we shot it multiple times), and only 1 round out of 10 penetrated the car door-to-door, whereas even 9mm was doing that consistently. And that was out of the longer barrel of a P90...I imagine a pistol would be even worse. The only real benefit I saw was that it was very controllable on full-auto...and would have been even more controllable had it not been for the horrible trigger and ergonomics of the P90. I'm not sure what crackhead came up with that design, but it's not optimized for use by humans. My conclusion from that day was that for serious work, I want at least a 5.56 out of a rifle, or 9mm out of a handgun. If I want to shoot a bunch of anemic bullets really fast for fun, I'd be better off just getting a full-auto in .22LR, because it won't be much less effective and I'll be able to afford to feed it. I guess Sig might jump on the bandwagon, but I won't be a customer. The main thing I'm wanting from them right now is an "X-Ten" in a basic trim and smaller form factor. | |||
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The 5.7 is not effective against any type of armor unless you've got the black tip rounds, which are pretty much unobtanium. What, me worry? | |||
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My other Sig is a Steyr. |
Seems like everybody and their grandmother wants a 9mm. I think that is all they make now. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
^^ Then the backlash is coming. Everybody always gets bored with the cartridge du jour. If SIG came out with a P320F in 5.7, I might be tempted just because its something different. Beyond it's being fun to shoot (perhaps), though, I'm not sure what the cartridge is really for in the civilian world. | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
I am personally not interested in 5.7 anything. But if you're set on one …
But in a semi-auto pistol you'd have better ignition and feed reliability with a centerfire, rimless, bottle-necked cartridge. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
SIG even abandoned their own named cartridge. So, I don't think they're going to pick up another not so popular one to make the gun for. And, there will be no backlash anything. The 9mm has been the "cartridge du jour" forever. Q | |||
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Yea, backlash, lol. That’s like expecting backlash against 22lr. Not going to happen. When the 40 craze hit 9 was still selling. It’s cheap-ish, effective, and everywhere. Everything that 5.7 isn’t. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
It's blasphemy to some people for this to be said, but the 9x19mm cartridge is the greatest pistol round ever- greater than the .38 Special and yes, even the vaunted 45 ACP. That's just the way it is. For as long as combustible, metallic cartridges are produced, the 9mm Parabellum will remain in production. When the last 5.7mm firearm is produced, the 9x19 will still be cruising along. | |||
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Exactly. The P90 was designed for use with a particular ammunition combination, and worked okayish with the black tip ammo. Without black top ammo, its whole reason d’etre is kind of gone. I had a PS90 and it was kind of a cool toy, but I quickly got bored with it, and have no desire for another 5.7 firearm.
I have no doubt that this will be the case. While I love the .45ACP, and 10mm, the reality is that the 9mm is the most successful handgun cartridge yet devised by man. While I prefer other cartridges for some things, the reality is that the 9mm is THE must have pistol caliber. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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probably a good thing I don't have a cut |
Sig will make a 5.7 pistol right after they make a P365 in 30SuperCarry. Right after. Hold on to your money until then. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Backlash was too strong a term. I still think that either people are going to get bored or some company's going to have a brilliant marketing idea and some other cartridge will enjoy a period of popularity because of it. | |||
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