No one needs a P227.

I like the P225 a lot, no one needs those either. I would argue that the P225 is actually good.

It's hard to argue with some of the naysayer logic, but I'll give it a go anyway . . .

They won't be making more. It's from Sig's good years and a quality pistol. You'll not likely ever be sorry you bought it, but you may later regret not getting it. The correct answer is YES!

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
I have an opportunity to buy a P227 at a fair price...

...I have the cash, but I'm not made of money and buying it would mean foregoing something else... probably something I'd use more.

Your thread title asks, "Do you need it?"
You already answered that no, you do not.

If a P227 is something like a grail gun to you, then go ahead and splurge a little, but based on what you wrote, that doesn't seem to be the case.

When I'm tempted to buy something that I kind of want but don't need, I ask myself, "How quickly & easily could I get my money back on it if the need arose (e.g., an emergency or shift in priorities)?"

So for example, if I came across 4,000 rounds of NIB 9mm brass FMJ from a reputable manufacturer for $650, I'd jump on it, b/c if I didn't use it, I know I could send out a text to other shooters I know and get my $650 back on it in less than a day.

You said you found a P227 at a "fair price", which tells me it doesn't meet my criterion above. If it were at a great price or bargain or steal, then you wouldn't be posting your question. You would have bought it already and be posting photos for us.

When they were first released, I purchased a 227 SAS Carry. I think a member, or former member, on this site was Mississippi Girl or something like that and she was a ffl dealer. My 227 would be among the last to go.

whatever floats your boat. But magazines will be getting hard to find and the 14 round magzines were notorious for not feeding well. Do you like the bigger grip.

I would buy a FN, glock or HK before the 227.

Nobody needs a P227 and almost nobody wanted one. It was a gun that came probably at least 10 but maybe 20 years too late and in relatively typical Sig fashion, was not quite complete and poorly supported. The 10 round capacity and issues with the 14 round magazines also did not help. Had they released it to compete with the Glock 21 and USP or even the XD45 (which although not loved by history was somewhat popular when it launched), it would probably have been looked on more fondly.

By the time the gun launched, I think the world was largely ready to move on from .45 and giving us a gun that had relatively poor capacity was just not the move. I think you see the same lack of fanfare with the full-size HK45. It's just too big of a gun to only have 10 round capacity.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
I like the 227 and as part of my pseries collection own a couple, but here we are with an out of production gun, made in very small numbers, from a company that absolutely sucks on support of obsolete stuff and is about to be inundated with issues from the 320. Would not be my cup of tea as they say...

Point well taken. However, the classic hammer fired P-series has been nothing, if not rock solid reliable. Many of the action parts are interchangeable with the other P's. I see no downside to acquiring any of these guns that suit one's fancy (or in my case - maybe not so fancy).

Really when you think about it, food, water and shelter, and more or less security are about all you really "need".

But if you see a reasonable price on a P227, I'd get it, the dollar isn't worth much nowadays and is sinking fast and overall I've seen a lot of good deals on guns lately.

I have one, I don't understand the negativity on it, magazines are cheap still from CDNN (about 30 bucks for the reliable 10 rounders)

I wouldn't buy an FN before a SIG, FN handguns might be good but they don't have a track record to speak of with military/police concerning they're handguns the Classic SIG P22X guns have.

Of course FN makes good rifles, building mil spec M4s/M16s is different than building modern handguns.

I have HK's in 45 as well and they're fine guns.

However, the P227 I have is a great piece.

HK's are about as rare as a Glock 19, and while a P227 isn't a "rare" gun, it is uncommon and a good one at that.

It's a P22X series gun, which are great, reliable and will outlast you as far as it goes unless you're shooting tens of thousands of rounds through it.

I see hrcjon finally gets to rip into SIG Classic's by conflating P320 inssues with Classic SIG issues.

Shame on you man, shame on you, what does SIG having issues with a striker fired polymer gun have anything to do with P22X guns?

Please answer, because what you wrote initially was basically gibberish

Oh SIG got so many P320 issues? if not they would have produced the P227 again?

I guess P320 issues means I better lose my P228, HUH?

Logic failed you here buddy, but remembering your history of posts being pretty vehemently anti-SIG puts it into perspective.

I never have bought a P320 and never would, but that was even before any negligent discharge issue, I felt the P320 was a betrayal of every previous design by Sig Sauer.

Short Reset Triggers work in the P227, you can get barrels and the common replacement parts still as I have, so really not sure why the P320 magically makes previous guns bad now.

I have three. One ex PSP gun, one SAS PSP marked one and a straight SAS version. Need vs want. Next question.

Yes you should buy it, because you want it. Your great grand kids will still be shooting it.

You can slap on a P220 optics ready slide to have a modern optic on it.

CDNN picked up a ton of police unissued 14 round mags. They are reliable. All SIG needed to do was upgrade them with stronger mag springs.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/sig...-45acp-magazine.html
If you're talking P220 with 10 rounds vs P227 with 10 rounds...clearly not a compelling argument. But 14 rds...that's something (they are huge though).

And they dropped the price, they were $30 a couple months ago.

Summary:
- Practically lasts forever like most quality guns
- Upgradable to modern optical sights
- 14 rounds of 45 ACP
- Reasonable price on mags (till CDNN runs out)