Primary Arms has released its first US made Red Dot! Aimpoint releases new Red Dot with a proprietary cut only available from Glock

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January 07, 2025, 05:27 PM

Black92LX

Primary Arms has released its first US made Red Dot! Aimpoint releases new Red Dot with a proprietary cut only available from Glock

I hope the PA does well and like the idea but the price is stout.

While I like the idea. I have no interest in a Glock nor do I see any other optic makers adopting the ACUT.
Some firearms manufacturers may adopt the cut if the optic takes off (which I doubt) and Aimpoints deal with Glock will allow it.
Maybe some aftermarket folks will start ACUTs for other manufactures.

I sure wish some sort of industry standard would come along.

I currently only have an RMR as I am afraid to really get another dot because there are so many options.
I had an old 320 with no factory cut milled for the RMR which I like just alright.
A plate and an ACRO may be in its future but that’s creeping at $600.

January 07, 2025, 05:34 PM

RogueJSK

Good for PA for taking the risk, but they're going to have quite the uphill battle establishing themselves as competitive with the known and proven duty-rated optics at their $700+ price point.

January 07, 2025, 06:03 PM

parabellum

not a toomah

January 07, 2025, 06:14 PM

patw

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Good for PA for taking the risk, but they're going to have quite the uphill battle establishing themselves as competitive with the known and proven duty-rated optics at their $700+ price point.

Exactly. I guess the plates ain't cheap. PA makes some good stuff and I have a couple of their Prism sights but at the price point, it's gonna be a tough sell.

January 07, 2025, 06:22 PM

flesheatingvirus

So what are the differences between an Acro P2 and the COA? The only thing obvious is that it sits lower in the slide.

I like the idea of the outer ring on the PA sight.

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January 07, 2025, 06:25 PM

12131

The COA is smaller than the Acro but has a wider perceived window.

Btw, does anyone know what the heck COA stands for? I read Aimpoint's big hoopla email release, and nowhere does it say what it is.

January 07, 2025, 08:45 PM

Chowser

Wow, $700ish? I'm just going to see if work will get me an RMR-HD or RCR this year. Still waiting for the chief to retire so the next chief will make optics optional. I'm getting old, but still prefer irons.

What does Primary Arms mean by RMR-A and RMR-B?

January 07, 2025, 09:05 PM

cas

Yeah the portable Tv on top of my gun thing leaves me a bit cold.

January 07, 2025, 11:18 PM

YooperSigs

My guess is the PA optic costs $700 is due to it being US made. Hard pass for me at that price!

January 08, 2025, 05:22 AM

Black92LX

quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
So what are the differences between an Acro P2 and the COA? The only thing obvious is that it sits lower in the slide.

I like the idea of the outer ring on the PA sight.

Size, mounting system, battery location, button location, adjustment location.

quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
The COA is smaller than the Acro but has a wider perceived window.

Btw, does anyone know what the heck COA stands for? I read Aimpoint's big hoopla email release, and nowhere does it say what it is.

Maybe Compact Optic and A for the cut type.

quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
My guess is the PA optic costs $700 is due to it being US made. Hard pass for me at that price!

Supposedly not just assembled in the US but all components made in the US as well.
Where as the Sig Romeo X Enclosed is only assembled in the US.

The blurb I read did not say whether that was street price or MSRP.

The ACRO MSRP is $675 and easily had for $550 and I have seen them on sale for $500.
RMR-HD MSRP is $1019 and they street around $700.
So there is a chance street price will be lower.

January 08, 2025, 09:21 AM

Lt CHEG

I’m actually rather intrigued by this optic and may give one a try. The new Aimpoint optic looks pretty cool as well. I want to support American manufacturing, and I have enjoyed my buying experiences with Primary Arms, so I could definitely see this being my first pistol red dot. I’m not sure that it would work with my Staccato P, it maybe I’ll try one of these when I pick up a P320, or maybe something else altogether. I’m definitely intrigued by both optics and actually pretty excited about the Primary Arms.

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January 08, 2025, 10:05 AM

ensigmatic

quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
My guess is the PA optic costs $700 is due to it being US made. Hard pass for me at that price!

Not for me. Not if it performs.

As I noted in "Would you buy a Chinese riflescope?": I'm more than willing to pay more, much more, for American-made product if its comparable in in features and performance.

If PA comes out with something like the Holosun 510C for my AR I'll definitely consider it. I'd love to replace the Chinese-made optic on my otherwise-all-American-made rifle with an American-made optic.

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January 08, 2025, 10:42 AM

Voshterkoff

The PA dot mounts really low, but the adapter plates don’t look that robust. It will be interesting to see how they hold up.

January 08, 2025, 02:38 PM

1KPerDay

quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
My guess is the PA optic costs $700 is due to it being US made. Hard pass for me at that price!

Trijicon's stuff lists for around there MSRP as well. I'm really excited to see PA come out with this. I hope other mfgs take up the call to build US-sourced and US-made stuff. It's a good thing.

If nothing else it's a chance for people who have always asked for US-made red dots to put their money where their mouth is.

January 08, 2025, 05:57 PM

Il Cattivo

For that kind of money, can we have a chevron instead of a 4MOA dot?

ETA: Per PA CS, no - "it eats too much battery power".

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Il Cattivo, January 09, 2025 03:36 PM

January 09, 2025, 07:55 PM

cas

I GooGoo'd what COA stands for the other day, and got three different answers.

January 09, 2025, 08:07 PM

12131

Probably comes with the Certificate Of Authenticity.

January 10, 2025, 02:37 PM

Chowser

Compact Optimized Aimpoint?

It's been almost 3 years with my RMR at work with no issues. Even with rain and snow. I'm not going to bother trying to get an enclosed optic anymore for it. I'm probably going to bite the bullet and get the RMR-HD.