And for those of you who are, what are you going to do with your original 365 (s)? Or what are your thoughts about using two guns which are exactly alike except for a very different manual of arms? Is the 365 MS only going to appeal to people who like and are accustomed already to using an external safety?
The P365 is my first pistol with a manual safety. I also have a LCP2 and Walther PPS....no manual safeties. I waited for the MS because I have never felt completely comfortable carrying without one. I have practiced drawing from my pocket and a kydex IWB holster and flipping the safety off is now automatic. I was practicing with my LCP2 a few days ago and found my thumb swiping for a safety that wasn't there. I'm certain that there is a good used market for the non-safety version since so many folks don't care for them.
Personally, I see no reason for a manual on the 365. I've been carrying Glocks for years without one and will soon be doing the same with my new 320C. To me, they are superfluous. That said, another level of safety/security can't hurt if that floats someone else's boat.
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The M&P line offers their guns with or without manual safeties. Any gun store will tell you that the manual safety versions tend to sit in the case. I see no reason why the 365MS would change that. So, the MS will be the minority, but still very important for those who prefer it. Options are a good thing. But, it’s still in the minority, so I don’t see many folks dumping their current gun for the MS.
As for using both, why? If you want a MS it’s for a reason. Why have a gun you don’t prefer and could potentially lead to a mistake/error?
They really only appeal to those who are already used to manual safeties. If someone new were to be converted over to adopting manual safeties, I don't see the P365 being the gun that does it.
When I had my first 365 last summer it didn't offer enough over my G42/43s with Striker Control Device to make me want to switch with all the extra gear that needed to be bought. Compared to the Shield and most other small pistols the MS on the 365 is very usable and I like it. I have since bought two of them and made the switch to the 365 MS. I already has a 320 MS and have been practicing like crazy with the manual safety. Own multiple 1911s so MS is not a new thing for me. If I had decided to keep the original non-MS 365 last year and was comfortable with carrying it then I probably wouldn't have made the change to the MS model.
I just yesterday sold a HK pistol and will order a P365 MS version from my LE distributor today.
I simply shoot my P320 MS w/X-Carry frame better than any other pistol, so it makes sense to standardize my preferred platform across all carry situations. Shot my friend's P365 well a few weeks ago, so it's a no-brainer for me.
I'm going w/the MS versions on both the P320 and P365 because they are essentially single-action pistols (fully tensioned striker), and I'm not comfortable running that setup without either a trigger blade safety or an external safety.This message has been edited. Last edited by: dehughes,
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Personally, it seems a little silly to me for a manual safety on this pistol, but as the others have said, it helps the pistol appeal to a wider market. SIG apparently received enough demand from customers to offer this version. At least they're trying to satisfy customer requests. On the other hand, look at Glock. Not a whole lot of manual safety models offered there.
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I think many people aren't understanding these are basically single-action pistols. The trigger on these striker-fired SIGs are fully-tensioned (much like the HK VP9, Walther PPQ, etc) which helps them have a great trigger pull, but without an external safety of some kind, carrying them is analogous to a 1911 in Condition 1 but with the grip safety defeated and the thumb safety off. HK and Walther add a trigger blade safety, SIG now offers a thumb safety.
Some just aren't comfortable without an external safety of some kind. Ultimately it is 1) preference, and 2) training.
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