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As the Brits would say: totally MEGA.  -MG | |||
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I could see detectives and the like using something like this or the Macro or XL models. But for a duty gun, I bet the P320 is more durable and still likely more reliable, on average. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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I kind of like the looks of the Fuse, it's a very nice 1911 based bit of styling. It's a gun and proud of being a gun instead of being some Barnygun look alike. However it really needs a thumb safety. Not only to complete the styling but also to keep the Police "Experts" from shooting themselves in the leg. I've stopped counting. | |||
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LGS received 2 Fuses today. One of them sold before my dealer could even log it in. I had a chance to look at both. Overall I liked them but... The triggers on both felt gritty. Not a fan of the sights, there's a lot of daylight between the sides of the rear sight and the front sight blade. I prefer the Sig X-Ray sights. He also received two 365 Legion AXG's in the same shipment. Loved the feel of the grip, but it's hard to justify almost $600 more than a Fuse. Overall impressed with the feel of the Fuse. For someone who carries a lightweight 1911 Commander, the Fuse feels very similar. Didn't take the plunge today, but I could see doing so soon. My daughter can deflate your daughter's soccer ball. | |||
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^ I wouldn't let the grittiness scare you too much. I've found that a lot of the new P365s and P320s that we've gotten in have kinda gritty triggers out of the box, but usually smooth out with a good cleaning and a bit of lube. I think the initial grittiness is usually cased more by leftover manufacturing debris than it is machining deficiencies on the parts. | |||
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I used to drool over Sig's general lineup, but last time I visited their website I more or less gagged (mostly the former). In Sig's case especially, beauty is most certainly in the eye of be beholder. Speaking for myself (and only for myself) I can't behold that shit. I suppose if I was shooting crocks while swimming for my life crossing the amazon river, I might find their super grippy tackticool space ray guns more useful than a fine piece of walnut and steel, I will have to pass. Don't get me wrong, functionally speaking these guns get better over time, but you gotta really love something that's genuinely fugly. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Thumb safeties seem to be pretty easy to add to the P365s and are available out there on the internutz. Modifying the grip module to accomodate it shouldn't be too hard. | |||
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I watched a video of miculek daughter kind of hinting around they were going to come out with a fuse legion. I too don't care for the fuse sights but might pick one up anyway. my local gun shop had one for a few hours. | |||
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I wish SIG would look after their Older Models!! More customer service please. SIG has turned into a boutique for Fashonable Handbags for the masses. "Advertising is the art of convincing people to spend money they don't have for something they don't need" Will Rogers SIG 229R LEGION SAO SIG 226R Elite SAO SIG 226R DA/SA SIG 938 SAS SAO | |||
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"Advertising is the art of convincing people to spend money they don't have for something they don't need" Will Rogers SIG 229R LEGION SAO SIG 226R Elite SAO SIG 226R DA/SA SIG 938 SAS SAO | |||
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I agree in principle, as I too love the P22x guns, but like XLT indicated in his post just above yours when he said his LGS had a fuse for "a few hours", these things are selling. Sig has figured out what the market wants, and people are gobbling them up. Even the 40th anniversary P226, where Sig released a really nice looking gun with a lot of features nobody expected it to have, we've got a thread with half a page of people complaining about the cut of the foam in the box. Sadly the classic line Sigs seem to be transitioning to the realm of collectors these days where those interested in them are more worried about cosmetic details than actually using the gun. Thankfully there's still a lot of used stuff out there on the market for the time being, so my plan is to get what I can now while it's still available and become my own support system, since I doubt I'll be able to count on Sig long-term. Companies like Matrix Precision are also going to be hugely helpful in keeping the product line alive. It's not just Sig. My buddy called me the other day looking for an ejector for a Remington 870. We're talking about the most popular shotgun platform in America that has been used by law enforcement and deer hunters for decades, but parts are nowhere to be found because even though it's been several years since the bankruptcy, "New Remington" hasn't seen fit to make them available. | |||
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Great Comment Sir. I did NOT want a 229 Legion; I wanted a 229 SAO in 9mm. My 226 Elite SAO is well do not know how old it is I bought it in 2014 My New 226 Da/Sa born in 2017. Im getting in touch with SIG to buy SAO springs as a back up; I should have done that last year.
"Advertising is the art of convincing people to spend money they don't have for something they don't need" Will Rogers SIG 229R LEGION SAO SIG 226R Elite SAO SIG 226R DA/SA SIG 938 SAS SAO | |||
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This. Outside of something super-niche like the P320 X-TEN COMP, is there a single pistol in the P320 line that isn’t surpassed by an equivalent P365? Military selection of the 320 will give it a life for quite a while, but outside of that, is there a single real reason to go the 320 route over the 365? | |||
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My preference for street carry is still a DAO version. I really wish they would get to work on reintroducing the P250 with a better trigger as far as travel, reset, and slop (which could have been done earlier and it wouldn't have failed). ---------------The Answer Is There Is No Answer--------------- | |||
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Yes. Some considerations are optic cut / selection, recoil impulse, among other things. Some people just don't like shooting the P365 for extended range sessions or training. I don't mind as I find the slide speed faster but the recoil flatter. I enjoy the P365's I own but they are oriented to carry and the associated range time is mostly for practice and proficiency. They don't really get picked as the fun guns to take to the range. Some people prefer the P365, some people prefer the P320, some like both. Both will be around for a long while like you mentioned. | |||
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I agree, and will add my comments to what you've already said. I have big hands. I run a large grip module on all of my P320s. The P365 is just too small for me. The newer, larger variants come a little closer to being comfortable, but they still don't fill my hand as well as a P320 or P226. I like the P320 as a duty gun. The modularity makes it customizable to different shooters and different roles, it's easy to shoot, easy to service, and very reliable. The recoil impulse, especially on the full-size guns, is very soft, and you can mount larger optics. Concealability isn't a concern in a duty rig, and a quality duty holster mitigates most of my concerns about the safety of the light, striker-fired triggers (concerns that I also have with the P365 FWIW). Personally, I have more use for a P320 than I do for a P365. But I'm not most people, my requirements are different (both anatomical and use-case), and I see the huge appeal of the P365 to most average CCW holders. That gun has also somehow managed to avoid the bad press and legal troubles of the P320, despite having a trigger system that is very similar mechanically. I don't think the P320 is going anywhere...there are too many LE agencies and military contracts for them to just dump it...but with all the lawsuits I can definitely imagine that Sig wishes they could just make the bad press go away by moving all their eggs to the P365 basket. | |||
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Agree with your entire post but the above stands out a lot to me. For the longest time I never really had a need or desire for a full size P320. I traded my way into a VTAC-R2 and was very surprised how much softer shooting the full size are over any of the smaller editions. That extra slide and recoil spring length make a huge improvement. | |||
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