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I'm going for my pistol instructor certification next month. Decided to get back into wheelguns and picked up a handful in the past few weeks.

I picked up a 15-5, a 1957 Combat Masterpiece and a 1977 NM Blackhawk in .357.

Needless to say I will be picking up a reloading press in the near future, a day late and a dollar short since the cost of powder and primers has gone through the roof along with factory ammo. So far all like 158gr LRN, I always send the first target out to 10 yards just to check POI and to make rear sight adjustments before shooting at longer distances.

I've installed the wide spur SBH hammer on the BH since the first range trip, much nicer to have a little more purchase.

I'd like to pick up a nice Model 10 with a 4" barrel next. Looking for a nice 581 as well, but I'm afraid those are going for more than I'm willing to pay.




20 rounds @ 20 yards....have to work on tightening that up, 8 3/8" barrel is like a half-assed rifle and capable of smaller groups if I do my part.






 
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Great looking smoke wagons!!! Targets aren't too shabby either. Wink
 
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nicely done, I am still jonesing for a manurhin Mr73 and a smith 547. Sadly both are out of the range of the dollar ten I currently have available.
 
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nicely done, I am still jonesing for a manurhin Mr73 and a smith 547. Sadly both are out of the range of the dollar ten I currently have available.


Yep. I've come to determine the S&W factory box, by itself is worth $500-$600. Roll Eyes

Every time I get a response to a WTB with "factory box included", I brace for impact.

I would definitely love a 547 with a 4" barrel. Like you, I'm just not willing to spend what they're commanding.
 
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nicely done, I am still jonesing for a manurhin Mr73 and a smith 547. Sadly both are out of the range of the dollar ten I currently have available.


I doubt even he MR73 would outshoot that model 15. Darn nice group he has there!
 
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That is some great shooting, but I have to take exception with some of the other statements made.

The K-38 Combat Masterpiece and the 15-5 are essentially the same gun. A 4" .38 S&W Special. While I am aware that there were some 4" barreled 14's made (K-38 Masterpiece - some call them "Target Masterpiece") I am not aware of the reverse to be true. That is a Model 15 or Combat Masterpiece with a barrel longer than 4". Although I have learned never to say never in regard to S&W. So assuming that you read the 15-5 from the frame in the yoke cut, that would make your 8 3/8" gun a pre-14 or a K-38 Masterpiece.

As for the box being worth $500 by itself - unless it is red, blue w/gold or black, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Any complete ensemble (box, docs and tools) adds value to a S&W revolver. The gold boxes plus the blue and silver or gray through the current blue plastic offerings may add up to $150 or bring up to that for the box alone. The older boxes do have significant collector value. Since both the Combat Masterpiece and the Masterpiece were introduced in the late 40's (1949 and 1946 respectively) the early guns would fall in the gold box era.

Sorry - just splitting hairs. Nice guns regardless and, as I said, great shooting.

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That is some great shooting, but I have to take exception with some of the other statements made.

The K-38 Combat Masterpiece and the 15-5 are essentially the same gun. A 4" .38 S&W Special. While I am aware that there were some 4" barreled 14's made (K-38 Masterpiece - some call them "Target Masterpiece") I am not aware of the reverse to be true. That is a Model 15 or Combat Masterpiece with a barrel longer than 4". Although I have learned never to say never in regard to S&W. So assuming that you read the 15-5 from the frame in the yoke cut, that would make your 8 3/8" gun a pre-14 or a K-38 Masterpiece.

As for the box being worth $500 by itself - unless it is red, blue w/gold or black, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Any complete ensemble (box, docs and tools) adds value to a S&W revolver. The gold boxes plus the blue and silver or gray through the current blue plastic offerings may add up to $150 or bring up to that for the box alone. The older boxes do have significant collector value. Since both the Combat Masterpiece and the Masterpiece were introduced in the late 40's (1949 and 1946 respectively) the early guns would fall in the gold box era.

Sorry - just splitting hairs. Nice guns regardless and, as I said, great shooting.

Adios,

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Thanks!

I only differentiated between the two because the 1957 4" model must have made it under the wire, "15" isn't stamped on it.

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In 1957 the K-38 Combat Masterpiece was renamed the Model 15 when all Smith & Wesson revolvers were given numerical model numbers. (The Military & Police and the Target Masterpiece were renamed the Model 10 and Model 14 respectively.) The model number is stamped on the frame behind the cylinder yoke, so it is visible (only) when the cylinder is open. A number of production and engineering changes have been made throughout the years, some of which are noted by a dash number suffixed to the Model number (15-1, -2, -3).
 
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nicely done, I am still jonesing for a manurhin Mr73 and a smith 547. Sadly both are out of the range of the dollar ten I currently have available.


I’m also looking forward to the Manhurian - the first revolver I’m excited about in a while.

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TThe K-38 Combat Masterpiece and the 15-5 are essentially the same gun. A 4" .38 S&W Special.
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My K38 Masterpiece had a 6" barrel in .38 Special.
 
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Lovely revolvers and very nice targets!


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Beautiful wheel guns with some great shooting CrazyHorse5.0. Congratulations to you!



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TThe K-38 Combat Masterpiece and the 15-5 are essentially the same gun. A 4" .38 S&W Special.
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My K38 Masterpiece had a 6" barrel in .38 Special.


Exactly. The K-38 Masterpiece and the K-38 Combat Masterpiece became the Models 14 and 15 respectively. Masterpieces had 6" and 8 3/8" barrels while the Combat Masterpiece had a 4" barrel. But as I said previously there are some 4" K-38 Masterpieces out there.

Confused yet?

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always appreciated the model 15. But the model 10 will remain my favorite in the 38 special field.
 
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I have plenty of love for revolving pistols. I started handgunning, at age 21, in late 1982 or early 1983, with a 1911, at which time I thought that revolvers were quaint. I started a police academy in late 1983, however, and, like it or not, I had to train with DA revolvers, fired only double-action, for academy training, and then carry only DA revolvers, during my first year of sworn service. Well, to make a long story short, I gradually learned to truly love revolvers.

Nearly four decades later, my right hand has aged-out of always providing a sufficiently-stable platform for reliable auto-loader functioning. Not yet being ready to switch to left-side primary carry, revolvers are my steady friends, and retirement has freed me from having to pack an autoloader as a badge of office.

Nothing wrong with auto-loaders. A Glock G26, or G42, positioned for lefty access, is a nice “tactical reload,” to complement the carry revolver. Life is good! Smile (Of course, it also makes plenty of sense to carry a second revolver, for lefty access.)

Actually, I write lefty, and throw right-handed, so, left-hand shooting has never been a problem. The draw felt natural enough, right-handed, with my throwing arm, so I simply chose to carry at 0300, in 1983, in spite of being left-handed.


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always appreciated the model 15. But the model 10 will remain my favorite in the 38 special field.


I actually have a pre-Model 10 on the way which was next on my list
 
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Nice guns. Revolvers has a panache all their own. Too bad they are becoming relicts.
 
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Still the best looking wheel gun ever made in my limited opinion:

 
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