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had a .40/.357 compact P320 slide in my basket on the SigSauer website and it disappeared. Only one slide is now available, for the P320. Fullsize, black. all others are gone. The best thing about the P320 is the modularity, but it seems they are taking away all options except for 9mm? Carpenter, Golfer, Angler | ||
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| Freethinker |
SIG’s move away from pistols chambered for anything other than 9mm Parabellum has been going on for a long time and started with the Classic line models. In fact, it’s somewhat surprising to me that they offered the P320 in anything other than 9mm in the first place. I could pontificate at length about why that is/was, but in short, part of it’s due to the self-fulfilling prophesy that “People aren’t buying guns chambered in anything other than 9, so why make anything other than 9s?” The self-fulfilling part is that if they’re not available, obviously people won’t buy them. Then there’s the issue of availability and expense of other ammunition. When demand goes down, availability goes down and prices go up (the last for a variety of reasons). I shoot my 9mm P320s much more than the ones chambered for 357 SIG and 40 S&W partially because replacing the latter would be very difficult to impossible even though I’d probably never break them or wear them out. And because I don’t shoot them much, there’s no need for me to purchase more 357 or 40 ammunition and I therefore contribute to the lack of demand. There’s always a possibility that the other previously-available chamberings will experience a resurgence in popularity, but it would probably take something like the Secret Service’s claiming that they couldn’t protect a principal because their wimpy 9mm handguns didn’t stop a threat. Welcome to the forum, BTW. It’s good to see someone else who isn’t stuck on the 9 and the be-all, end-all.  ► 6.0/94.0 To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. | |||
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The shift to 9mm is puzzling to me, and I was completely unaware it was happening until 2 years ago. I took a class at my local PD and the guy was talking about how everyone has switched to 9's and I was very confused. Seems to me, the reasons that the shift away from 9's happened is still applicable today... I've bought more 9's the last couple years, but am still a big fan of .40s&w, and will still carry it when my life depends on it. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Welcome to the forum, gentlemen. The focus on 9mm can be a bit...eh, irksome. Companies are finally developing reasonable options for compensators for the SIG P320s and it's apparently impossible to find a longer-than-4.7" threaded barrel in 357SIG even though the 357SIG is a great candidate for a compensator. | |||
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I am caliber agnostic generally speaking. I do like .40 cal to this day. Not in an “lets have a caliber argument” “real calibers start with a 4” kind of way just in a I think it’s a solid performer and I like it way……..but I tend to only like rounds measured in caliber or mm’s or inches…….. It is a shame that we are sort of in a you can have any gun you want as long as it’s a poly striker 9mm world right now. You can choose any color though as long as that color is black or tan.  Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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Is the SP2022 also discontinued? | |||
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https://www.sigsauer.com/sp202...tron-carry-size.html Q | |||
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When did the frames of these stop being manufactured in Switzerland? Or more accurately when did they start manufacturing the entire SP2022 pistol in NH? Thanks “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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Thank you. When I google search for it, I can find it, but the drop down box on the website did not list it. That or I’m really not seeing what is right in front of me. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
P320 FULL-SIZE 40 S&W/357 SIG 4.7" SLIDE ASSEMBLY, SIGLITE NIGHT SIGHTS, BLACK In Stock @ $279.99 Just $ 223.99 for SIG Connect Subscribers! Get 'em while they're Hot...Before they're NOT! https://www.sigsauer.com/slide...ight-sights-blk.html ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
I'll admit I'm part of the problem. These days I don't really shoot anything other than 9mm in semi-autos. I have a .40 but it collects dust in the safe. I started my LE career during the .40 era, and I'm glad it's over. There's nothing my 9mm version of the same gun doesn't do better and cheaper, and my progressive press is already set up for it. I have a couple of .45s that I like, but the capacity difference just makes them unviable for most practical purposes. 10mm is still interesting to me, but I don't own one yet because I haven't settled on what gun in that caliber would be most useful to me. I think .357 Sig has some ballistic merits, albeit in a narrow window (shooting relatively light bullets fast). I never got into it, even though it would have been just a simple barrel swap. The cost of factory ammo is high if you can find it, bottleneck cases add some reloading challenges, and ultimately I think the increased practice I get from shooting 9mm more than offsets any advantages that I'd see from the .357 Sig. From a commercial perspective, 9mm is what's selling, so I understand the business decision to focus on that. It's hard to fault Sig, or any manufacturer for that matter, for not wanting to make guns that will sit on store shelves. I'm personally less annoyed by the fact that everything is chambered in 9mm than I am by how everything out there is a pre-cocked striker design. I'm not necessarily asking to go back to the DA/SA or DAO days, but it would be nice to see somebody trying something different. I'm much more comfortable with a platform that requires the energy necessary to fire a cartridge be added by the user during the trigger pull than one that stores all that energy in place and the trigger/sear simply allow it to be released. | |||
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I loved my P320C in 357Sig, but the ammo cost & on-the-shelf availability led me to swap it back to 9mm, which consolidated my handgun ammo from 4 calibers [9mm, 22lr, 38Spl, 357Sig] to 3. And the 22/38 are rarely brought out. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| probably a good thing I don't have a cut |
Glad I got my .45 Stainless compact slide last year when there were only 8 left. I doubt they will be making them again anytime soon. | |||
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But as far as I can see, Sig's touted V-Crown ammo is not offered in .357 Sig. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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It was, it was all could find locally & what I had all my magazines loaded with The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
I could be wrong here but I thought I read after the 2022 French Contract ended that is when they started with the NH frames. Though I am pretty sure the French contract guns were German frames. I am not sure if there are new Swiss or German frame guns anymore that aren’t NOS. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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That’s kind of what I was thinking too. I decided to watch The Bourne Identity again the other night and it gave me the idea to maybe add a SigPro to the stable to scratch an itch. I don’t want a NH made frame though so I’d either have to go used or NOS. I’m just trying to figure out what date code range I had to be in. It’s weird how as we get older sometimes just watching a movie can trigger memories of younger days and wanting to grab some type of memorabilia. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
It’s such a great pistol a real sleeper honestly. I have one in 9mm with the Swiss frame that has the Sig proprietary rail and a 2022 in 40 with the German rail and the standard rail. Bought the 9mm new for $399 and the .40 used for $350. Great guns I really need to grab a .357 sig barrel for the .40. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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