Reading Q's 10k round report and he mentioned using EWL30 which is sorta in between oil and grease viscosity wise. I love that idea. I use Hurley's Gold for similar reasons.

That led me to the dreaded SF grease questions. I know no group of gun guys in the world pontificate over grease more than this group so I figured I would engage the collective.

If I were to want to make an equivalent do all grease/oil combo, if such a thing exists, how would you do it? Or how have you done it?

Imagine I know nothing about ATF, synthetic oil, lubes in general. Ie, speak plainly as to products that are easy to find and the ratios you mix them in.

I would chime in that pictures are always welcome but probably not so much in this discussion. So I guess cat pictures are ok.

For starters, have you read this?: Florks Lube Guide

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
If I were to want to make an equivalent do all grease/oil combo, if such a thing exists, how would you do it? Or how have you done it?

Um, do you realize that grease is just oil with some type of thickening agent added, usually soap?

There are plenty of applications for grease besides firearms. Just go peruse you local auto parts store for a synthetic grease and be done with it.

Whatever stuff they use for CV joints should work fine for a firearm.

Lubriplate 105 works well. I get it at the auto parts store, about $10-12 for a 10 oz tube.

I also use the EWL30 and it also works well.

Broadside feel free to not add content if you can't freaking read what I asked. Or continue, whatever. I use grease and I use oil. I want something in between like a home brew EWL30.

You other guys thanks. I have read Florks guide but not in awhile, might be a good place to start.

I am trying to emulate the performance without the outlandish price that products like EWL30 cost. I like to have bottles of lube in my range bag, on my desk, at my workbench, etc. Don't really want to spend 15 per bottle.

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I make my own with Mobil 1 grease and M1 oil, mix it to the thickness I want like soft butter and put it in a syringe. works great on whatever you want a softer type grease oil mixture and you will spend pennies, especially if you use M1 on your auto/truck........

Ooooh, syringe. I like the sound of that. Thanks.

I do not know what you could mix to make something like EWL30. I do know that engine assembly lubes like Lubriplate 105 (a white colored grease) and this stuff, https://lucasoil.com/products/...thetic-assembly-lube work well as weapons lube, I have some of both but haven't used the Lucas Oil stuff yet as I still have a couple of bottles of EWL30, I use the Lubriplate when I want a grease. They can be had at auto parts stores relatively cheap.

I picked up a dozen of these so I can have little bottles of the stuff all over the place.
https://www.amazon.com/Plastic...urpose/dp/B017UR07NU

Not a homemade recipe but some good insight on grease and oils.
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http://www.grantcunningham.com.../05/lubrication-101/

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Originally posted by Broadside:


Um, do you realize that grease is just oil with some type of thickening agent added, usually soap?

There are plenty of applications for grease besides firearms. Just go peruse you local auto parts store for a synthetic grease and be done with it.

Whatever stuff they use for CV joints should work fine for a firearm.

Actually, no. Grease is not simply thick oil, and there are a lot of formulations of grease; not all are compatible with each other, and not all are appropriate for the application.

Of late, I've been using Lucas grease and lucas oil. MPro7 also makes a thin grease that works well on most things, and doesn't cook off. I spread a thin coat on the barrel, too. The Lucas bottle comes with a thin applicator needle. It's useful for getting down into spots.

TW35 is also good; I carry a tube of it to the range, too, and use it on the rails, barrel, and contact points.

Mil-Comm MC3000 may be close to what you are seeking. It is like a thin TW-25B grease. It is not inexpensive, however. Sold by Top Gun Supply and others.

Black uses TW25-b on all of his classic P series guns. He is also a fan of Hurley's Gold as well.

^^^ Are you trying to tell us that TW25-b is the cat's meow?

Sorry...couldn't resist.

Well if Black likes it, lol.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Ooooh, syringe. I like the sound of that. Thanks.

these work great for small jobs and I get a large meat marinade type for larger applications.
https://www.ruralking.com/idea...x-1-needle-3-pk-9187

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Broadside feel free to not add content if you can't freaking read what I asked. Or continue, whatever. I use grease and I use oil. I want something in between like a home brew EWL30.

Oh, I get what you asked. I just think it is a waste of time and money.

I've seen plenty of wonder lubricants come and go. I've tried a number of them myself. Somebody always seems to be coming up with some new "wonder-lube" that will turn your glock into an M-16 or save the environment or something like that. At the end of the day it is all just some new marketing ploy.

I've come to the conclusion that how you use them is much more important than what you use.

With that said, it's your time and money to waste how you see fit. The Mil-comm MC3000 was the one I was thinking about. I think I actually bought a tub of this myself at one point. I see GaryBF has already pointed that one out.

As I remember it had a consistency that was slightly less viscous than honey. Of course it wasn't sticky.

Good for you Broadside. Personally your opinion on the subject ranks right up there with your reading ability. Zero.

What kind of "wonder lube" do you think I'm trying to make out of common lubricants? Its like you can't seem to make the words make sense in your head or something.


"Oh, I get what you asked". But you decided to go off on a tangent and continue to do so. So you did a twofer. Didn't answer the question and put out incorrect information from your vast knowledge base. Yay for you.

I haven't done this in volume, but in small batches I have made small amounts of less viscous grease using the stuff I use for guns anyway.. Mobil 1 synthetic grease and Mobil 1 synthetic oil.
Works fine. I brush it on when I make it. When very hot its runny and red... The products cost about $10 so you can experiment without any risk. There is no possible downside for use in guns. But me personally if I wanted a volume of it I wouldn't bother doing that as greases come in all kinds of viscosities. I would just get some artic grease (NLGI 0 is where I'd start, but if that's too thick go to 00) but you can go up or down from there. These are common industrial products and easy to get and very cheap. FWIW>

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I know no group of gun guys in the world pontificate over grease more than this group so I figured I would engage the collective.

Probably because P series Sigs require a lot more lub than others.. (Vis a vis Glocks which you could run completely dry for quite a few rounds without issue) It's the steel slide running directly on an aluminum frame which would self destruct if run dry. So, we talk about it.

Pedropcola,

I can't even attempt to answeer a question about mixing anything unless it's Ed's Red solvent . But when you do find something to experiment with - Brownells has some nice syringes and needle oiler bottles. I haven't tried the pin point oiler yet but want one. I use needle oilers for everything and actually spray aerosol Sili-Kroil into the oiler for application.


https://www.brownells.com/guns...oiler-prod40383.aspx

https://www.brownells.com/guns...ringes-prod1056.aspx