But why? I get the angle, steel is only for commie weapons designed for it but again, why?

We all read claims of accelerated wear but no t one of us can actually show it. As for price I buy cases 3 or 4 at a time. At a minimum each case of brass is at least 30 bucks more. That ends up being the price of one more case. Ie, if if I buy 4 cases the next one is free. I make good money but I still won’t turn up my nose at that difference in price. Especially since there is no difference in the end result. None.

You have to shoot a lot of it for it to matter anyways.

At$136 I’d shoot a lot it it.. ..

Yea, shoot it all the time. If you shoot enough of it the savings is enough to buy another barrel, extractor and maybe even another gun.

Steel is fine and this price is about 25-20 percent cheaper than cheap brass. Extractor wear is bunk- total bunk. Shooting the barrel of a istil out with it is also total bunk.

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Originally posted by HRK:
SG Ammo has steel case 9mm for $136 a case (1000) shipped, pretty inexpensive per round for practice.

I've heard a few people shun steel case ammo, just curious if its worth buying, also since I shoot my glocks more than anything else if there's any issue with steel case and Glock firearms.

Brass runs around $30 more for 1k.

In my experience, not all steel cased ammo is created equal. Tula is great for me in most of my guns, excepting my PX4 Compact Carry and some Glocks with modded strikers and lightweight springs. Wolf gives me way more problems than Tula and the lacquer sealant gets everywhere in the gun.

Lucky Gunner did a pretty good accuracy longevity test using AR's and steel case/bimetalic cartridges.

https://www.luckygunner.com/la...vs-steel-cased-ammo/

I have no idea how that correlates to steel cased pistol ammunition, but I'm trying to find out. I'm currently running nothing but steel through a G19 and a 9mm 1911 in the hope of finding out if you can shoot out a pistol due to steel/bimetalic ammunition.

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Originally posted by SgtGold:
Lucky Gunner did a pretty good accuracy longevity test using AR's and steel case/bimetalic cartridges.

https://www.luckygunner.com/la...vs-steel-cased-ammo/

I have no idea how that correlates to steel cased pistol ammunition, but I'm trying to find out. I'm currently running nothing but steel through a G19 and a 9mm 1911 in the hope of finding out if you can shoot out a pistol due to steel/bimetalic ammunition.

How many rounds do you have through the 19 so far?

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Originally posted by SgtGold:
Lucky Gunner did a pretty good accuracy longevity test using AR's and steel case/bimetalic cartridges.

https://www.luckygunner.com/la...vs-steel-cased-ammo/

I have no idea how that correlates to steel cased pistol ammunition, but I'm trying to find out. I'm currently running nothing but steel through a G19 and a 9mm 1911 in the hope of finding out if you can shoot out a pistol due to steel/bimetalic ammunition.

How many rounds do you have through the 19 so far?

The Glock is actually a G23. I use a 9mm G19 MOS slide for training, then switch back to .40 for bedside use. I'm not too far in and have about 800 rounds through it so far. Being a defensive handgun I clean the frame every time I switch, so only the upper is getting abused. The 1911 is a toy, so it stays dirty after each use. I have over Ik through the 1911, although the actual steel count is around 600.

Never have never will.

Never have never will. Love the pure unbiased reasoned thinker. Lol

Oh yeah. thousands of rounds of wolf. I get a few rounds per case on average that don't go off the first try if I have an aftermarket striker/firing pin spring in them. That's a CZ P07 with Cajun parts.

Nay for me.

I ran 500 rounds of Tulammo across three different pistols and had 5 failures (no ignition). My new at the time P938 and XDs each accounted for 2 of the failures. My P239 converted to 9 mm accounted for the last. I have not drank from the well again.

I also tried 300 rounds of Federal aluminum with the same pistols. I could not get 7 down range with the P938. Each time it experienced a failure to eject. I attributed it to a tight chamber. My XDs, P239, P220, & P226 ate it without issue. Again, I have not drank from that well again.

Someone gave me a few boxes of steel-cased 30 Carbine ammo. We took it out to the range and experienced all kinds of problems in a rifle that never gave issues before. (1943 Underwood M1 Carbine).

It seems that the steel-cased ammo (Wolf) that we received seemed to have some type of heavy coating (Lacquer or polymer?) on the steel casings that eventually built up in the chamber. Failure to ejects began happening and several times I had to run a wood cleaning rod down the barrel and gently tap some out with a brass hammer.

We shot around 100 rounds and had about 10+ rounds at the end with failure to eject issues. I was concerned about the extractor so we stopped. There was a visible brownish residue in the chamber that wasn’t there when we started. Plus, there seemed to be a very different COF to the steel casings as opposed to brass. Obviously something was in that coating, because It took three times as long to clean a pristine-clean before rifle afterwards.
Not for me. I gave the rest away.

I wouldn't shoot steel case ammunition in any pistol I own. Whether or not it's harmful to pistols is not a question for me, because I'll never do it.

Its interesting to note that some firearms manufacturers recommended against shooting steel cased ammo in their guns.

Why do you suppose that is?

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It seems that the steel-cased ammo (Wolf) that we received seemed to have some type of heavy coating (Lacquer or polymer?) on the steel casings

A lot of the Russian stuff has lacquer on the cases, apparently to "weatherproof" the primer. You can smell it when it burns in firing. It will definitely gunk up your firearm. I have a case of "Golden Bear" (or something like that) with just a couple of boxes gone. I will probably leave it at the range with a "Free" sign....

No thank you! Not allowe in the indoor range I shoot at and also I reload.

Not for my weapons.