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I have fallen down the HK black hole...

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September 17, 2026, 05:05 AM
bac1023
I have fallen down the HK black hole...
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Originally posted by Vaftocr:
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Originally posted by kaschi:
The HK Hole is a good place to be. Speaking of holes.....CA seems to be the leader of that pack when it comes to firearms. You have my sincerest condolences!

Well said. OP, I know this is an Sig forum, and I do own a few Sigs. However, I find HKs to be the finest of pistols. I like my VP9 the best of all my striker fired pistols. They are all similar though. It is there hammer fired guns that I truly love. I can’t wait to finally get the USP 45. They are my favorites. I even like it more than the Beretta 92, which is a great hammer fired steel weapon.

The Beretta 92 is not a steel weapon….at least not the standard guns.
September 17, 2026, 01:21 PM
Dusty78
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by Vaftocr:
quote:
Originally posted by kaschi:
The HK Hole is a good place to be. Speaking of holes.....CA seems to be the leader of that pack when it comes to firearms. You have my sincerest condolences!

Well said. OP, I know this is an Sig forum, and I do own a few Sigs. However, I find HKs to be the finest of pistols. I like my VP9 the best of all my striker fired pistols. They are all similar though. It is there hammer fired guns that I truly love. I can’t wait to finally get the USP 45. They are my favorites. I even like it more than the Beretta 92, which is a great hammer fired steel weapon.

The Beretta 92 is not a steel weapon….at least not the standard guns.


It’s crazy you can get the all steel guns for $750 right now




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Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes.
September 17, 2026, 05:02 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by Vaftocr:
quote:
Originally posted by kaschi:
The HK Hole is a good place to be. Speaking of holes.....CA seems to be the leader of that pack when it comes to firearms. You have my sincerest condolences!

Well said. OP, I know this is an Sig forum, and I do own a few Sigs. However, I find HKs to be the finest of pistols. I like my VP9 the best of all my striker fired pistols. They are all similar though. It is there hammer fired guns that I truly love. I can’t wait to finally get the USP 45. They are my favorites. I even like it more than the Beretta 92, which is a great hammer fired steel weapon.

The Beretta 92 is not a steel weapon….at least not the standard guns.


It’s crazy you can get the all steel guns for $750 right now



Yep

Even though I don’t like optics, I do like the deals on non-optic ready models. I’m glad I still remember how to use irons
September 17, 2026, 07:54 PM
Vaftocr
The Beretta 92 is not a steel weapon….at least not the standard guns.[/QUOTE]
Yes, steel and alloy is more correct. My inference was more based on it not being run of the mill polymer.
September 18, 2026, 09:42 AM
bcjwriter
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by Vaftocr:
quote:
Originally posted by kaschi:
The HK Hole is a good place to be. Speaking of holes.....CA seems to be the leader of that pack when it comes to firearms. You have my sincerest condolences!

Well said. OP, I know this is an Sig forum, and I do own a few Sigs. However, I find HKs to be the finest of pistols. I like my VP9 the best of all my striker fired pistols. They are all similar though. It is there hammer fired guns that I truly love. I can’t wait to finally get the USP 45. They are my favorites. I even like it more than the Beretta 92, which is a great hammer fired steel weapon.

The Beretta 92 is not a steel weapon….at least not the standard guns.


It’s crazy you can get the all steel guns for $750 right now



I really wish we could get those here in California.



September 18, 2026, 10:02 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:

It’s crazy you can get the all steel guns for $750 right now
What model(s) are we looking at in your photo?



הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים
September 18, 2026, 01:17 PM
94hokie
This thread prompted me to root through the safe to see the various H&K's I have. Turns out I guess I have a habit. I've got 2 P2000sk's (one DA/SA, one LEM), two P30sk's (one DA/SA, one LEM), two P30's (one DA/SA, one LEM), a P2000, a USPc45, a USPc9 and two P7 PSP's. The LEM P30sk is my usual carry, that's a very under-rated gun in my opinion.
September 18, 2026, 01:40 PM
Dusty78
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:

It’s crazy you can get the all steel guns for $750 right now
What model(s) are we looking at in your photo?


Beretta 92X Performance (railed) and 92X Defensive (non-railed.) The Defensive is currently $950 with a $200 rebate.


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Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes.
September 20, 2026, 05:43 PM
sgalczyn
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Originally posted by sgalczyn:
A HK45 Tactical awaits me at the Cabelas counter - just came in.

Points - points baby - free to me

Took it to the range yesterday----only had time for a box of 50.
Sweet shooter - but the 1st DA trigger pull----Sheesh.
Is an LEM kit the best/only fix?


"No matter where you go - there you are"
September 21, 2026, 02:40 PM
Dusty78
My black hole pick ups today (USP Elite 45 with Merkle Weight, and VP9B police over run gun.)




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Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes.
September 26, 2026, 03:24 PM
WRAM1
I fell down that same hole and am still here with no real intention of leaving.
September 27, 2026, 09:00 AM
tsig
I've fallen in the HK hole years back and somehow climbed out it it. Late last year I got really bad HK itch that require a scratch. I couldn't stop scratching the itch so here they are. MK 23, USP 45 tactical, USP 40, HK 45C, (2)-VP9. I need help and maybe see a specialist.
September 29, 2026, 06:53 PM
c_zielsdorf



Disabled combat vet
September 30, 2026, 08:30 PM
bcjwriter
So, after shooting all 4...heres some impressions...

P2000 - my pick for a compact 9mm...
P2000SK, great CCW, carry it opten, especially for appendix
VP9A1-F. Amazing gun with the optic, shoots like a dream and im using it right now for competition. Amazing trigger and ergos...
VP9K - it's ok, and has all the high quality that you expect from HK. But I prefer the P2000 (I know I'm sick that way...). Also, there are so many other good pistols in this category, it has a lot of competition to fight...)



October 17, 2026, 06:52 AM
Thomasconnor
I've owned several of the HK pistols made except for the Glock copies and the P7 and it's variants.

I had a (both like new) P2000/40 and a P239/40 out together and was amazed at the difference in felt recoil and the P239/40 soon went down the road as a result.

I too believe that the P2000 is the unsung hero of the plastic HKs, particularly the 40.


October 17, 2026, 07:12 AM
sigarms229
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including the paddle release


I felt the same until about 25 or so years ago I was at my gun clubs combat pistol range where you are allowed to draw and fire. Well I had an HK USP Compact in 9mm, and I drew it from an OWB leather holster and somehow on the draw it hit or dragged the paddle against the holster as the gun cleared and out came my magazine which landed on the ground in front of me. It really freaked me out and I stopped carrying that pistol.

Today the only HK I would consider are the versions that have the push button magazine release.



Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
October 17, 2026, 11:50 AM
cslinger
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I had a (both like new) P2000/40 and a P239/40


While I think HK does a fantastic job with recoil I would have to say I find the P239 to be perfect for the .40 and a pussycat.


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
October 17, 2026, 11:58 AM
Anubismp
Its not a black hole. The bottom/end is easily found and is called your credit card limit.
October 17, 2026, 12:24 PM
1lowlife
I've only owned one HK firearm.
It was a USP9 Compact.
That was back in my Sig DAK days, so I converted it to LEM and then back to DA/SA.
It was ultimately sold; I never cared for the magazine release, although I did shoot it well.
Probably should have kept it, but that was back when I sold my least favorite firearm to purchase my next venture.

I'm glad you found something that works for you.


October 17, 2026, 12:53 PM
Chowser
I broke down and ordered the VP9CC from Langdon Tactical. Not sure if they even have it in stock. Cheapest I can find it online in stock was only $50 less than what I could order from Langdon and it comes with a trigger job. So $50 for a trigger job, sure.



Not minority enough!