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Can one transport long guns and handguns to an FFL in another state to be put on consignment?

I am asking this question to avoid shipping costs and to personally transport the firearms to an out of state FFL. If Governor Northam and his party carry out their intent, VA residents may receive a short time period to move AR's, AK's, and similar firearms out of state or surrender them to police. While I am encouraged by the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary jurisdictions, I do not live in one and it is unclear what effect they will have.

There is talk of being allowed to keep such firearms if registered with police but there are two problems with this process. 1) If banned then there will be follow-up legislation and the firearm location will be known to authorities. 2) I like many others are opposed to giving up the rights for future purchases and generations.


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Yes, you may hand carry your guns to an FFL in another state. I would recommend a state other than Maryland.
 
Posts: 2034 | Location: Virginia | Registered: April 08, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have seen people in my area do this to effect transfers between individuals so I might assume it is legal to do - but there might be some issues putting them on consignment if they didn't sell and the FFL had to give them back to you - since they are an out of state FFL, there would have to be some shipping to an in-state FFL involved. But in general yes I would believe.
 
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Yes, you may hand carry your guns to an FFL in another state. I would recommend a state other than Maryland.


You are absolutely correct Burnetma. MD is a maze of restrictive firearm regulations. I am thinking of WV since it is fairly close to No. VA. The only problem is that I have to drive through MD to use the main highways. FOPA should cover me if the firearms are in a locked cases outside of my wing span.


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I transported a rifle to an IL FFL, with the prospective buyer, who was an IL resident.

I look at it as no different than legally shipping to an FFL. There may be some States where you transporting them could be an issue.
 
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Let me add these caveats.
1. As long as you are legally allowed to possess the firearm in the neighboring state you should be good to go. Should the State have restrictions that make the firearm or accessories illegal, then the answer changes.
2. Someone else will have to comment on NFA items, should you have any.
 
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There are no federal laws against it.




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There are no federal laws against it.


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There are no federal laws against it.


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I think Pennsylvania requires both parties to have PA driver licenses or ID cards if it’s a handgun
 
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I think Pennsylvania requires both parties to have PA driver licenses or ID cards if it’s a handgun


He's asking about to an FFL. You seem to be talking about face-to-face between two individuals.


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Good information. I'm considering transporting a pistol to Indiana and transferring it thru a dealer to my son in law.
 
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There are no federal laws against it

That of course would confuse me and is somewhat misleading. Federal law shields you in this case, doesn't permit you anything. Since the only law that matters in the cross State transportation business is Federal law. Otherwise State law would apply as you go through a State. So FOPA gives you safe passage, but for that to work you need to be OK in the starting place and in the ending place and unloaded etc. In addition FOPA doesn't cover things that might matter in transitioning hostile ground like ammunition (think NJ on hollow points).


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This has nothing to do with the law, but just make sure in advance that the buyer's FFL is ok with accepting transfer from an individual. Just like some FFLs won't accept shipped transfer from a non-FFL individual, some may not accept faced transfer, either.


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There are no federal laws against it

That of course would confuse me and is somewhat misleading. Federal law shields you in this case, doesn't permit you anything. Since the only law that matters in the cross State transportation business is Federal law. Otherwise State law would apply as you go through a State. So FOPA gives you safe passage, but for that to work you need to be OK in the starting place and in the ending place and unloaded etc. In addition FOPA doesn't cover things that might matter in transitioning hostile ground like ammunition (think NJ on hollow points).


Is there a federal law against this? Yes or no?




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Maybe. There are federal laws that potentially might apply given the original post. OP doesn't originally say how he is traveling (example by air has its own Federal laws), NFA items etc., any ammunition, his State of residency. But if by vehicle and nothing special in terms of the guns themselves then I agree there are no Federal laws against it.
But my point is the key to this being legal (the original implied question) is navigating the States you travel to and through.


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Maybe. There are federal laws that potentially might apply given the original post. OP doesn't originally say how he is traveling (example by air has its own Federal laws), NFA items etc., any ammunition, his State of residency. But if by vehicle and nothing special in terms of the guns themselves then I agree there are no Federal laws against it.
But my point is the key to this being legal (the original implied question) is navigating the States you travel to and through.


Travelling by car, No NFA items, several AR 15's, CZ Scorpion Pistol, standard ammo in my carry firearm, from VA to NC or WV probably.


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OP, feel free to call your local BATF field office if you’d like a second opinion. Some people want to argue to argue. But there are zero federal laws that prohibit you to transport a firearm to give to an out of state federally licensed Dealer.

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my understanding it that no matter what it passed, a FFL is still federally licensed,

as in the FFL can possess, but not sell instate, if an item is prohibited,



as in why go out of state unless you are hoping he sells to a person in the area vs selling online,



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Originally posted by lyman:
my understanding it that no matter what it passed, a FFL is still federally licensed,

as in the FFL can possess, but not sell instate, if an item is prohibited,



as in why go out of state unless you are hoping he sells to a person in the area vs selling online,


I would have to sell out of state because the Gov. Northam is trying to make them illegal ASAP! I may not have time to sell them in state


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